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About to buy a new S80??? S80

I am just about to buy a new 2004 S80 (non-turbo). Does anyone have any comments or experience with this car? Have the transmission problems been corrected? I am told the car runs on regular gas - is this so?

Mike








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    About to buy a new S80??? S80

    Mike, I own the so-called dreaded 1999 S80 (2.9 version) and it has been an excellent car that I would buy again in a heartbeat. Fred








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    About to buy a new S80??? S80

    Assuming that the catastrophic failure issues have been resolved (a large assumption), there remains the fact that the S80 is fitted with a four speed gearbox, while other vehicles in it's competitive segment feature five or six speed gearboxes. The difference is shift smoothness, fuel economy, and noise.

    There remains a normal failure percentage associated with any transmission, and Volvo's only means of servicing this gearbox is with a remanufactured gearbox that is serviced by a GM subcontractor company in Chicago. Speaking from the experience of having owned four of these remanufactured gearboxes, I can advise that the quality of these rebuilt transmissions is dreadful. My Volvo dealer told me the tale of how his service department needed to install three remanufactured transmissions in one car before they could drive it out of the shop.

    If you get a good box that goes the distance, it won't be a concern, but as Dirty Harry said, "you got to ask yourself...do you feel lucky?" The point is that the GM 4-speed is an obsolete design, with a poor reliability record, and poor service support from Volvo. You can do a lot better than this for $40K.

    If you still decide to buy a S80, you best plan on living with it till the wheels fall off because the car has lousy resale value. The other way you can look at it is, the S80 is a good car to buy used because you can steal it from the unfortunate that bought it as new. Don't believe me? Drive into a Volvo dealer and see what they'll offer you on trade for a S80. My pristine S80 T6 showed a book price of $22,500, so I expected the dealer would offer me $15-17K on trade. The dealer offered $5K because that's all the S80 would bring at auction, because it had too many miles to be sold as a certified used car, and he didn't want it on his lot because the word was out on the streets that the car is a reliability nightmare and he can't give them away. I tried two other dealers and got the same offer $5K, (sight unseen), whether it looked like it just rolled out of the showroom, or ready for the junkyard. (How do you turn $45K into $5K?, ... Buy a Volvo)

    For $40K, you can buy a lovely luxury car from a reputable manufacturer that someone else will actually pay you for should you decide to resell it. Investing a little due diligence into the prospect of owning one of these cars will likely convince you to look elsewhere.









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      I have been reading alot about the S80's lately mainly because of all the problems I have had with mine. I owned one (till last week) for just under 2 years. I bought it used from a dealer with 28,000 miles. It was a '99 T6. The final straw for me was when it died in the middle of the street because of a bad alternator. I called my dealer and asked to speak with the head of the service dept. He told me "do not keep the car past the warranty". I took his advice and for fear of loosing more money, sold it back to the dealer with 52,755 miles for $11,300. A total loss to me of about $20,000!!!!!! in less then 2 years. I almost feel lucky to have gotten rid of it for the price I did. I must say, if your going to buy one just be aware that fixing these things is EXPENSIVE. Especially when something which should be covered under warranty like power steering is not.

      I know your looking at a new one, they may be fine. But mine was not. Since I bought the car I had the following problems:

      ABS problem luckly under warranty
      Oxygen sensor replacement
      Wheel sensor replacement
      Engine mount replacement
      MAJOR oil leakage (which the dealer seemed to conviently overlook when fixing the SECOND helping of my strut problems)
      Contol arm replacement
      Noises in my steering when at low speeds (replaced like 3 different things before the probem was fixed)
      Power steering FAILED completely when I was looking for parking during Fri. night traffic in NYC. (That was NOT covered under warranty)
      And finally the alternator which also caused a low battery charge thankfully though the battery lasted till I could sell it back.
      Oh and the final thing, just 3 days before I sold it back, my driver side window came OFF THE TRACK!!! and almost fell into the door.

      I know there must have been more, but I don't care to try to remember. Just be aware, when buying a car as "nice" as this with all these systems, fixing anything is not cheap. Even under warranty an average repair for this car ran me like $350. If it had not been covered, I would have had to shell out at least $1000 for the same thing.

      So good luck.








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    I bought one a couple of months ago. 3,000 miles on it. I will try not to bore you with my raving about the car. The dealer delivered a perfect car and it has remained that way. I did not by the Turbo or AWD as I feel the car needs neither. Just drop down into 3rd if you need to. I do around town once in awhile. The car I bought was appointed similarly to my previous car, a 528i. I rate the two vehicles very similarly. Front wheel drive affects the feel of the car but I think they have done a reasonable job with that. It still feels like a european car. I live in Minneapolis and had no problem with rear-wheel drive and computer traction control in the winter. Just threw Blizzak's on in winter. I am debating doing that with this car.

    We have a chain here that sells Sulpher free gas. I use that and even though the manual states you can get by with 87 octane, I have always used 93. I have not measured the mileage but I am quite sure it will be very good based on some trips I have taken.

    I would buy the car agin in a second.







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