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Driver side wiper arm/ Just about had it! 850

O.K, folks. I have thus far purchased a new arm about a year ago and now the
infamous missed wipe gremlin is back. Bought new refills for state inspection recently and shortly thereafter the unperfect wipe was still around. I also performed the "Bay 13" fix last week with not much noticable difference. What should I do next before I throw in the towel?
I read once on this board that someone took the arm off the car and put it in a table vise and bent it but I am not sure where exactly he/she bent it.








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    Driver side wiper arm/ Just about had it! 850

    Folks,

    If the Bay13 solution doesn't work for you, please take heed of what Trey mentioned below. His solution to grind down a small piece of the arm's contact point has been documented as something that works. See this old thread for more info:

    http://www.brickboard.com/AWD/index.htm?id=135101&show_all=1

    Gerald C








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    the real answer 850

    i just trtied replacing my arm i found out why the arm doesnt wipe. Part of the key is using VOLVO OEM arms, you can get refils anywhere but if you look at the volvo spring setup its totally differnt from even the bosch excel at pepboys. There is an additional spring piece on the volvo one. Also if your arms are volvo oem make sure those little clips that hold the refil are far enough apart to allow the refil to move a bit, if its tight the tension cannot evenly distributie itself over the whole window as the arm sweeps across and you end up with peaks and valleys in the refil leaving a unclean sweep.

    Additionally the driver side arm has a wing which helps the arm deflect air and allow it to work better at highway speeds, this also adds weight which helps keep the blade down as well.








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    Driver side wiper arm - You folks are ignoring geometry! 850

    First - the wiper blade is held against the glass by one point in its center, the blade is flexible and free to pivot.

    If the blade is in good condition and flexible enough, the only thing that matters is the amount of force pushing it toward the glass.

    Second - Bending the wiper arm near its base moves the pivot point toward the glass, but the force is applied too far from the pivot point, it is sort of like trying to paddle a canoe by holding only the handle end of the paddle.

    If you bend the arm in the middle, the force is better applied, sort of like holding the paddle on its handle AND half way down the shaft.

    As an added benefit, bending the blade in the middle means that you are bending the thin steel part, not trying to bend a reinforced cast part, and you do not apply any force to the wiper mechanism.

    Draw a diagram of both fixes and you will see what I mean.

    Or better yet, try it.

    At the risk of getting myself in trouble, I think Bay 13 is great, but incorrect on this one.
    --
    3 8s & 2 7s 740,000 miles total








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      Driver side wiper arm - it's not THAT complex 850

      I've seen this very same topic here many times before and I usually ignore it because (to me), like now it's getting too over-blown. The tech at Bay13 (Rich)is another Volvo dealer master tech like myself and we see this problem very often. The wiper arm/trans linkage "system" is so simple that it could have existed 100 yrs ago, hardly high-tech stuff here.
      People can and often do also try bending the upper arm section and or blades but that's usually why they then hit the hood. I've seen where people do that too.

      The problem I see is that the lower part of the left arm gets bent out (something physically causes that, like heavy snow or frozen in ice, etc) and assuming that the upper part of the arm (thinner part) and blade is also not bent too, the lower part can easily be re-bent succesfully and once done correctly, it won't just go back to its "bent position" all by itself from normal use. There is no stress or other reason why it could just re-bend by itself from normal use in warmer weather (no snow, ice, etc).

      Bending the lower section will also not damage the wiper arm trans attachment point (where the arm attaches with the 13mm nut). That part can't easily be bent by any means.

      I know, there are those Volvo purists around who can't imagine "tweaking" anything as if to them, that'd be "butchery" but if that's how one really feels, go buy new wiper arm parts and spend some money. The new parts will definately have correct geometery right out of the parts bag.








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    Driver side wiper arm/ Just about had it! 850 1994

    Bending the wiper arm is just a "BAND-AID". There is an underlying problem that is being ignored. On my '94, now the Passanger side wiper is contacting the front edge of the hood. Something about the mounting mechanism for the whole assembly is wrong. The pressure of the wipers on the glass is forcing something else to stretch. Anyone taken the whole assembly to diagnose the real problem?

    Dan









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      Seen this MANY times..... 850 1994

      I've had wiper transmissions and motors off those as well for other problems such as bad motors or broken wiper trans linkage so yes, I'm very familiar with the whole wiper system and there's no rocket science involved as it's a very basic device. Re-bending the bent arm back is not a "band-aid" fix either. The metal simply gets bent the first time because something obstructs it, bends it to begin with. We see it often in winter when snow and ice causes it to bend. Wiper arms are not made to shovel heavy snow and should also be broken loose when frozen with ice BUT people don't realize that and that's why most bend. Those arms don't just bend by themselves, something is causing that. The metal doesn't loose its strength simply by being re-bent (it's not "white metal") and doing that harms nothing. I've been doing that ever since 850s first came out and had observed the problem and seeing the same cars for repeat business (other maintenance, repairs, etc) I can assure anyone that the same arms aren't just re-bending back to "bent again" all by itself from normal use.

      If anyone isn't happy by simply bending that arm and adjusting (IF need be), one can always buy a new arm but it's a waste of money.








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    Driver side wiper arm/ Just about had it! 850

    Per someone elses tip, I stopped arm at 12:00 and took my Dremel tool to the stop at the base of the arm. Grinding off just a little of the metal allows much more pressure on the wiper arm against the glass. Black paint touches it back up and has been working great now for a few months.

    Raise arm up and down with wiper stopped in 12:00 position and you'll see where to grind.








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    Driver side wiper arm/ Just about had it! 850

    Do you mean that when the left arm is at 12:00, it's not touching the glass? If so, Bay13s fix and myself is simple, requires NO parts. Stop the arm at 12:00 (ignition off) and puch the lower part, just before the pivot point, towards the glass....bending it. It's easy and that's all that's required. DO check the arms tighteness as well (13mm nuts).








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      Driver side wiper arm/ Just about had it! 850

      Frank;
      The answer to your question is, no. It does touvh the glass. I think I explained in my post that I had already done the Bay 13 fix with minimal success. The wiper blade makes contact but does not fully clean off the rain on the back sweep.








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        Driver side wiper arm/ Just about had it! 850

        Is it possible that you just didn't bend it enough? It takes some force but I've never had problems doing that and I do that repair often.







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