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Wheel Bearing Issues 850

I believe I have wheel bearing noise on my 1994 850 NA. The noise is clearly speed related and is not connected to engine rpms at all. The sound is a fairly load roar at highway speeds. It is less loud when turning right at speed (on an off ramp from the interstate, etc.).

Is there a way to determine which wheel is the likely culprit and is this fairly straight forward repair?

The CV axles are about 3 years old.

thanks,
Hawkeye








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    Wheel Bearing Issues 850

    Reporting back again. I replaced both front bearings and the noise/roar disappeared. Neither bearing ever showed hot.

    Hawk








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      Wheel Bearing Issues 850

      Had to replace the passenger side front wheel bearing on my 850 sometime ago. Amazingly the driver's side is still original at 251k!

      Don't remember it getting particularly hot. The symptoms were noise that faded or intensified based on whether I was going straight or turning.








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    Wheel Bearing Issues 850

    Reporting back as promised. I drove the car about 20 miles and checked the temperature of each hub. All were about 65 degress F. All the wheels were tight.


    Took to the tire shop. They said it needed to be aligned and the the front tires were worn funny. Sure enough,that was it. Noise is reduced and moved to the rear.

    Thanks for the help.

    Hawkeye









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    Wheel Bearing Issues 850

    There's another way to look at wheel bearings.
    You might assign so many miles or years and decide its time for a grease job.
    Since there's no grease fittings I changed out the wheel bearings/hubs after 200,000 miles and 21 years.

    I used the cheaper Chinese hubs instead of OEM, I'll take my chances.

    Bill








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    Wheel Bearing Issues 850

    If you have ears like mine, it is impossible to tell which wheel bearing is bad even with the windows rolled down. Some suggest jacking up the car and try moving the wheel in and out (6 and 12 o'clock) - any movement is bad.

    Using an IR thermometer is not easy if the brakes have been used, but you can compare side to side readings at the center of the hubs. If the IR thermometer has a red pointer light, that is even better.

    The rear hubs are easier to replace than the front, cheaper also. If you do not have the equipment and jack stands, any GOOD mechanic can do this job. The axle bolts require a lot of torque, both to remove and put back on.
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    Keeping it running is better than buying new








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      Wheel Bearing Issues 850

      I have a IR with the laser (fluke brand). I'll try it and see what I can figure out. Thinking of a quick trip down I40 and minimize the braking to see.
      Will report back and thank you.








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        Wheel Bearing Issues 850

        While turning, the outside wheel is under more stress than the inner. If you can find some smooth pavement (like n empty parking lot--but good luck with that this time of year :-) and make sweeping transitions from right to left the howling bearing may become obvious. -- Dave








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        Wheel Bearing Issues 850

        I bought a 40" 3/4 drive ratcheting breaker bar...Wright Tools...from a local better brands of auto tools supplier...made short work of that torqued to a million foot-pounds nut that holds the CV axle in the hub bearing...








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          Wheel Bearing Issues 850

          bought that exact same Wright Tools breaker bar...$125 at a local better tools dealer...worth every penny, made short work of those torqued to all he** axle nuts...money well spent!








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    E-16 socket for front hubs 850

    Here's the socket set you need for the front hubs: E16 is the one you need
    I dunno if the parts joints might loan you a socket or not?
    There's also impact sockets for more money, and that's what I got here.
    The front hub bolts were stubborn here.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/11pc-Female-E-Torx-Torque-Star-Socket-Bit-Set-on-Snap-in-Rail-E4-E20-/191874319300?hash=item2cac99c3c4:g:91cAAOSwf05XOpKQ&item=191874319300&vxp=mtr








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    Wheel Bearing Issues 850

    A bad wheel bearing should run hotter. You might try checking the hubs with a
    IR thermometer that you can find at Harbor Freight and elsewhere at low cost.
    Check after some high speed highway miles.

    The front hubs go in with E-15 or E16 (reverse Torx head bolts) so you'll
    need the special socket and you have to deal with the Big nut on the axle shaft.
    I'd soak the front hub bolts with Mystery oil for several days before starting.

    You need to separate the control arm at either end, and If you decide to take
    it apart at the ball joint, beware of prying it apart with a 4' pry bar.
    This practice can result in splitting the forged clamp for the ball joint
    on the steering knuckle. You DON'T WANT THAT...Ask me how I know.

    I found that you can use a wedge to open the clamp
    slightly to remove the ball joint. Get some steel wedge in the end of the split
    clamp and gently drive the wedge to spring the clamp loose, easy does it.
    The other perhaps safer option is to remove the two control arm bolts at the frame that don't require messing with the ball joint clamp.

    Bill







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