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'79 bertone S70

I know, wrong group, but S70 folks are so nice and responsive...have money, and urge for a summer fine ride...local Craigslist(Central NY) has an ad for a 1979 Bertone coupe...no mileage listed, but pics to appear to show a clean, well cared for car...owner asking $5500...I would think owner fairly firm on price, seem to recall this car for sale previously...don't know much about them, I know they have lots of unique body/trim parts...any other pitfalls...?? how 'bout that price....??


thanks again to any and all with their sage advice..








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'79 bertone S70

Interesting article on 262c production. Gives you some detail on the car to; If your still considering purchase.

http://www.hemmings.com/hsx/stories/2006/01/01/hmn_feature10.html








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'79 bertone S70

many thanks to all for the tons of useful info...I called on the car, and didn't much care for how the conversation went with the prospective seller....don't like dealing with jerky people...decided to pass...have had other cars with unique(equals expensive!!) parts on them as....have a line on a '68 122 with a slightly hot rodded B-18 in a price range more suited to my budget...








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'79 bertone S70

Hi herbertcat,

I used Google to search for the craigslist advert. Craigslist has many instances by location in NY-state.

Could you post a link to the craigslist advert.

Actually, I found many Volvo 262 C and 780 Bertone auto for sale using google to search specifically craigslist.org.

At 5500$, the vehicle should be clean and without rust and not in need of immediate repair. How many miles?

As aforementioned, the 1979 Volvo 262 C came with the Peugeot-Renault-Volvo (PRV) V-6 engine. I believe it is an all aluminum light alloy engine with steel wet sleeves. The engine uses a timing chain that may need replacement every 100,000 miles?

The 2.6 and 2.7 and early 2.8 version of this engine were fraught, as aforementioned, with lubrication at the over head cam journals, or is it teh cam lobes wearing down (?I forget) in each of the engine banks, or sides. The cams come out through the front on the North American market driver side and through the firewall on the passenger side if you do not pull the engine. On these V-6 engines, performing the recommended oil and filter and performing oil changes on time on a well-cared for V-6 engine does not avoid the need to perform some serious engine work.

When this engine was available in the 2.9 displacement, all mechanical issues were solved, and while a complicated engine, would be quite a performer with reasonable fuel economy and emissions.

If the 1979 Volvo 252 C Bertone coupe does not sound like a quiet and well running engine, or drives well, you can make discounts on a purchase price.

Yet you may be dealing with some serious and expensive auto work ahead. Also, you probably don't need to worry about much competition.

If the body and all are first rate and rust free, and is collision free or, if it had any collision damage, was properly repaired, you could consider it a unibody worthy of engine / transmission swap to a redblock ohc four cylinder from a late 700 or 900 series. Or many will perform a small block V-8 Ford or Chevy swap. Even a modern, small V-6 would do in the engine bay. Do your research.

If not already, you may have innumerable suspension repairs, pending. Buishing replacement? How are the strut mounts, well domed or worse, concetrically split around the bearing cup?

If auto, you probably have the BW-55 (or possibly teh less efficient Borg Waner-35). At teh age of the transmission, I'd worry it may need some serious repair. Electromechanical things age even without use.

Check all fluids. Is the brake fluid no darker than a light tan, good. If the brake fluid is black, worry you may need to have some brake service up to and including component replacement such as calipers, the pressure differential warning switch assembly, the two rear check valves, and also, all flexible brake lines, if not already, may need replacement.

Though the AWD & later FWD Volvo use sealed bearings for their hubs, the 262 C, as with ALL RWD Volvo autos, have tapered front and rear wheel bearings. Typically, the rear wheel bearings are well neglected under the mythos of Volvo auto invulnerability from owner / operator neglect and abuse. These bearings should be repacked with compatible NLGI-2 wheel bearing grease maybe every 50k-100k miles and no more.

So, you know your budget, yet do you want to take on what may be a little bit of money pit as you replace wear items en mass and may have to rebuild or replace the engine? Check records. Check fluids.

I'm no expert on the two Bertone models at all. Mostly just how 240 applies to 262, with the V-6 engine being a problem maybe. So, you may want to hop on over to the RWD side of the mighty brickboard.com and ask there. Other should hopefully reply. I won't reply unless others do.

Also, the link, please?

Questions?

Hope that helps.

Duff.
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'79 bertone S70

I had a 780 with the V6, it was abused and I gave it away about 1 year later. I didn't like the engine, the exhaust was a mess. But that is probably off topic because the turbo versions were much easier to maintain.

As to the price, there is a California one on Ebay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Volvo-Other-Italian-leather-/161765807874?forcerrptr=true&hash=item25a9fe5702&item=161765807874

I am sure he wants more than 5K, but use the pictures to compare with what you are looking at. Also check the list of maintenance items carefully.

Yes, there are a few unique items. It is a 2 door, so the body panels after the front fenders are different. Glass and roof are unique. The V6 engine is hard to maintain. The exhaust is unique to the V6. Not sure about the tranny and diff. The seats are unique.
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'79 bertone S70

I recall an older Swedish mechanic who owned an indie shop when I was in my 20`s & a little "Volvo crazy" telling me "Do not buy a Volvo with "6" in the model number!!" He likely saved me $ & grief!








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'79 bertone S70

I had a 1979 264GL. The v-6 engine is the same in the Bertone, I think. It was a Volvo/Pugoue/Renault engine. It ran great. You need to change oil frequently as dirty oil clogged the small internal openings and could lead to all sort of expensive issues. You also need to make sure coolant hose are in good shape as not to loose coolant and overheat the engine. Heads wharp easily. Very smooth suspension. Really liked that year and the v-6. Wished I could have afforded a Bertone. The Bertone has a very nice leather interior and lower roof line than the 4 doors. Check for service records of course!







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