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Fellow 850 enthusiasts:
I have to share this account while still fresh. We just returned from a round trip from Indiana to New Mexico in our 97 850 GLT. The car has seen this trip and more before. 6 months ago or so, I replaced the in-tank fuel pump with a used one from e-bay due to a crack in the plastic flange of the fuel pump housing that leaked only when topping off the tank. (NOTE: Remember this when you get to the end of my story). On our trip, we stopped in Amarillo TX for lunch on the second day of our journey. The car would not stay running when we went to get back on the highway. I suspected a fuel pressure problem as it was intermittent in nature. We went to Auto zone and check out a fuel pressure gauge. The pressure at the rail was 26 psi (should be around 44). I knew I had a problem but wasn't sure if it was a pump or a pressure regulator. We had to be in New Mexico on Saturday so we couldn't spend time on a car problem. I RELUCTANTLY had the car towed to a local indy euro garage…none of my volvos have ever been to a shop and this was a reminder as to why! We rented a car and went to NM to accomplish our task. I got a call from the garage in Amarillo and they said to change the fuel pump, filter and plugs it would be $880.00!! Right. I asked them if I could work on the car in their lot and he said no. We went next door and asked if we could use their parking lot and they said sure. I went and bought a fuel pump (pump only, not assembly) from Auto Zone (another known mistake) (found later to be the wrong part) and when we went to change the pump we found that the connector hose within the pump assembly was loose causing an internal leak (drain back causing a hard start) and insufficient pump pressure. The pump assembly I had purchased 6 months ago on e-bay had a loose hose clamp on the connector hose within the pump assembly and I failed to notice it on installation!.

The reason I share this story is mainly to remind all to check this hose and the two hose clamps when troubleshooting fuel delivery problems. It was causing hard starting and eventually a failure to run problem and was hard to see if you don't physically tug on the hose to see if it is secure.

As a follow on note…I don't fault the garage for trying to make a buck, but my son and I had the pump out in 20 minutes, troubleshot and back in in 15 minutes. That kind of estimate to change a fuel pump, plugs and filter is ridiculous. Beware if you are in Amarillo…

Mark

95 850 GLT
97 850 GLT
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Fcp recently blogged about the things that should be replaced before failure based on known failure intervals. Fuel pump was one at about 220k. I would add cam sensor every 100k and pcv oil separator at 100k. Starter at 250k.








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Nice write-up.

Why not send a copy of the writeup to the appropriate BBB and AAA?

I wonder if the Texas atty general might like that writeup in his file as well?

Do it as a public service, and grant yourself two points. :-)

Bill








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97 850 fuel pump problems 850

Thanks Mark,

When on the road it is impossible to 'shop around' for a good mechanic, and, unfortunately some shops can see nothing but profit from a one time customer.

OEM fuel pumps are not cheap, full assembly and not just the pump motor. But why new plugs and filter? Of course, none of these items take a lot of time to replace, but if you were unfamiliar with Volvos... and looked up the book time for all 3 things separately - 3 hours, not 1 hour of actual time.

You were lucky that you found the loose clamp. A shop not familiar with your particular car and prior DIY work probably would not have noticed and just replaced the pump and put on a new clamp and everything would have worked.

Keep a 10mm, 13mm wrench and a pair of pliers handy!

Klaus
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