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Running rough when in gear S70 1998

My boyfriend has a '98 base model S70 with the NA 2.4L engine that has been running rough recently. I'm fairly certain the PCV system and many of the vacuum hoses are due to be replaced, but the idle/power is actually pretty steady.

The roughness seems to be more of harsh vibrations throughout the cabin when he car is put into gear. Stationary with foot on the pedal and in "Drive" is when it is most obvious. The roughness/vibration is less noticeable at higher speeds.

This led me to think something may be wrong with the transmission, so I checked the fluid and the levels/color looked okay. It also shifts fine as well.

Any ideas what this could be? Bad engine mount? Engine timing? Transmission problem?

Thanks in advance!
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'93 Volvo 945 w/128K miles








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    Running rough when in gear S70 1998

    Check the motor mount on the right side of the car, Front of engine near crankshaft pulley.








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      Running rough when in gear S70 1998

      I will check that out tomorrow. I've read about that mount in a couple of posts. Thanks!
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      '93 Volvo 945 w/128K miles








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    Running rough when in gear S70 1998

    Your first guess regarding the PCV and/or vacuum lines probably the best. The right hand motor mount under the timing belt is also suspect, just because of age.

    The timing is controlled by vacuum pressure which also determines fuel/air ratio. A check of the spark plugs may show that they are wet if the vacuum is low. When is the last time the rotor and cap were replaced?

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      Running rough when in gear S70 1998

      I will work on getting the PCV/vacuum lines replaced. Is there any sort of comprehensive lists of what to purchase when redoing the vacuum lines? I haven't been able to find one yet. It's the N/A 5 cyl so should be a little less complicated, at least.

      I wasn't aware timing was controlled by vacuum pressure. I will have to check that out. I replaced the plugs a couple thousand miles ago and the old ones were really wet! I'm not sure when the rotor/cap was replaced. I will have to look through his service history.
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        Running rough when in gear S70 1998

        The 'timing' really didn't become mechanically variable until 1999+ engines. What happens with your engine is the ECU responds to throttle and vacuum pressure. The more throttle, the less vacuum pressure. Vacuum pressure also regulates the fuel pressure, less vacuum = more fuel pressure. Eventually, the additional fuel will foul the plugs so much that the car will stall and refuse to start until the gasoline in the cylinders dries.

        What you want to do is follow every vacuum line that enters/exits from the intake manifold. Now, there is one that always cracks with age: It is under the #1 cylinder runner, close to the PS pump. It comes out of the manifold pointed at the fender and then makes a 180 to go under the runners to the PCV/flame trap. It is also the hardest to replace, which is why people replace this pipe when replacing the oil separator and other lines.

        To check for vacuum, warm up the engine, turn it off. Remove the oil filler cap and wrap a latex around the opening, I use a rubberband. Then start the engine and watch the glove, if it inflates you have a problem.

        The vacuum line for the 1998 engine's fuel pressure regulator is strange. There appears to be 2 fuel lines coming over the right side of the engine, one is the fuel line, the other is a vacuum line attached to the front of the manifold. Follow this line down the back side of the engine and you will see it enters the FPR which is attached to the sub frame. If the FPR fails, cold starts will take a long time to crank and there will be a puff of black smoke on engine start.

        There are other vacuum lines that go to the air cleaner. Check the elbows.

        If the latex glove expands, start getting ready to replace the oil separator and all of the lines. And then start using synthetic engine oil.
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          Running rough when in gear S70 1998

          Couple of things... I found that all motor mounts were replaced around 40k miles ago, so I'm not convinced those are the issues. I still need to take a peak at the mounts to make sure they look okay though.

          The PCV system appears to be bad. The glove did inflate a little bit. This wouldn't cause the rough running though, would it?
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          '93 Volvo 945 w/128K miles








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            Running rough when in gear S70 1998

            Does the idle speed slow down when you put it into gear with the foot on the brake? You may also have a dirty idle control motor/dirty throttle body.

            Replacing the PCV system is a 5 hour job, not including breaks for hot chocolate. The latex glove should never expand on a warm engine, that means that the vacuum system is compromised and you will run rich. If it gets worse, the cam seals may push out. Worst case is the rear main seal starting to leak.

            Make sure the flame trap isn't clogged first. If there is still a plastic screen inside, throw it away! that is a Volvo TSB by the way.

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    Running rough when in gear S70 1998

    Do you hear any odd noises?

    CV joints, Motor mounts, brakes, wheel bearing, Messed up cat converter?








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      Running rough when in gear S70 1998

      The engine seems a little noisy -- mainly just valve noise. Were these engines known for being loud like that? I know my A4 with the 2.0T is known for noisy valves.

      Other than that, no odd noises other than noise resulting from what seems like NVH.

      The noise/vibrations occur when the car is stationary, so I don't suspect an issue with the CV joints, brakes or wheel bearings... which leaves me to the motor mounts. I will see if I can take a look at them tomorrow.
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      '93 Volvo 945 w/128K miles







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