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She just died.... 850 96R

posted by  someone claiming to be John M. on  Tue Apr 17 15:26 CST 2001 [RELATED]

...and won't start back up.

I was driving home from work and had just

vectored in on a parking spot (hey, its war

in San Fran). I put my car in neutral to

wait out the other driver looking for a CD

to listen to. Just as I did this, my car

started to hiccup and then died. I tried

to start it back up, but it would only

hiccup a few times and never really turn

over.

The other data I have gathered is:

-nothing dripping

-no distinct smell or burning under hood

-minimal smoke came out after removing the oil cap

-temperature gauge hand is at 3o'clock

-belts all look to be intact

This is all I have to offer. Anyone have any input

on this problem?

Also, anyone have a Volvo shop in SF that they could

recommend? This car is no longer covered and the

local dealers don't appeal to me at all.

Thanks in advance!

John







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    Volvo shop in SF 850 97

    posted by  someone claiming to be ls on  Sat Apr 21 03:40 CST 2001 [RELATED]

    If you are looking for a recommendation for a volvo shop in San Francisco, then try calling Centrum Volvo, I have gone to them for the last 3 years and have found the service excellent. prices are definately lower than the dealers costs. ask for john... he seems to be honest and straight forward in his advise. good luck







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    Re: She just died.... 850 94

    posted by  someone claiming to be Dan Fisher on  Wed Apr 18 08:35 CST 2001 [RELATED]

    Not long after I got my 94 850 turbo, it died when I was idling in traffic. It would not start for about 20 minutes. My mechanic later told me it was because I was sitting there with the AC and lights on and the battery was being drained. I wasn't moving enough to allow the battery to be charged. The computer, to protect itself, will shut down the engine and not let it start for a while. I can't remember exactly but I think it turned over a little, but not much, and then just sat there. After 20 minutes or so, it started.

    It worked well, until a few days later when I went to start it and the battery was totally dead. So I got a new battery and it has worked perfectly during the two years since then.







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    Re: She just died.... 850 96R

    posted by  someone claiming to be Sin on  Tue Apr 17 17:06 CST 2001 [RELATED]

    My first question would be what codes you got.

    Check out Volvospeed.com, Bay 13, and read your codes. If you could get your car started it would be better, since if you could, you could check for idiot lights, which are a clear indicator for codes.

    What was the climate like at the time?







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      Re: She just died.... 850 96R

      posted by  someone claiming to be John M. on  Tue Apr 17 18:14 CST 2001 [RELATED]

      Unfortunately i don't have access to a machine

      that can pull codes.

      I will bring it into a shop and see what they have

      to say.

      After thinking about it some more and trying to car

      once again tonight, i'm thinking it may be more

      fuel related. The car has 12 gallons, yet it died

      like it wasn't getting enough fuel. It will try to

      start, but just isn't firing. Pure speculation on

      my part, in any case.

      The climate was pretty warm today. approx. 75 degrees F

      John







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        Re: She just died.... 850 96R

        posted by  someone claiming to be Sin on  Tue Apr 17 18:21 CST 2001 [RELATED]

        Some 850's have a module at the front of the hood on the passenger side that allows people to read codes. I believe it was 92-95, but it won't hurt to check.

        Looks like this

        http://volvospeed.com/CheckEngine.htm

        I've noticed on VERY humid and hot days, some 850's stutter and seem like they are going to stall just after start up. Related?







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          Re: She just died.... 850 96R

          posted by  someone claiming to be Vladimir on  Wed Apr 18 07:33 CST 2001 [RELATED]

          There are no diagnostic modules on cars made after 1996. Have to use the scan tool.







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          Re: She just died.... 850 96R

          posted by  someone claiming to be John M. on  Tue Apr 17 18:55 CST 2001 [RELATED]

          I don't think that the weather could have

          been very much of a factor. The car started

          fine this morning, fine at lunch and again

          when I was leaving work.

          It just happened to die when I was 5 minutes from

          home. I will see if I can pull any codes and report

          them in the morning.

          Thanks!

          John







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            Re: She just died.... 850 96R

            posted by  someone claiming to be Sin on  Tue Apr 17 18:57 CST 2001 [RELATED]

            So you have that module? Great!

            No problem.







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              Re: She just died.... 850 96R

              posted by  someone claiming to be John M on  Wed Apr 18 06:28 CST 2001 [RELATED]

              I looked for the module this morning and

              don't think my car has one. Tried to start

              her up again, but no change from yesterday.

              I did happen to notice that when the ignition

              has been turned on, there is a slight hum

              coming from under the hood. Even with the car

              off, this hum is noticable but goes away after

              a few minutes. It seems to me that this is coming

              from the turbo/flame trap area. I don't have

              torx so I couldn't remove the one screw that

              was holding a cover over this area.

              The current plan is to have it towed and looked

              at. I'll report what the mechanic finds.

              John







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                Re: She just died.... 850 96R

                posted by  someone claiming to be BOU BOU on  Thu Apr 19 06:18 CST 2001 [RELATED]

                John M: That hum you are hearing has nothing to do with your no-start problem. The hum is perfectly normal. That's the sound of the cooling fan which cools the ECU modules for the engine & trans. This fan runs for a brief period after the ignition is switched off to cool the ECU modules. You fellas should be aware that there is an air filter at the opening of the plastic tube that routes to the ECU box. You should check this every couple of years or as I do, and replace it when you replace the pollen filter.

                Bou Bou







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                  Re: She just died.... 850 96R

                  posted by  someone claiming to be Robert Firestone on  Thu Apr 19 09:33 CST 2001 [RELATED]

                  Bou Bou, hood open, looking at the engine, where exactly is this tube located?







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                Re: She just died.... 850 96R

                posted by  someone claiming to be csf on  Wed Apr 18 07:29 CST 2001 [RELATED]

                Try the fuel pumps. My car had a very similar problem and it turned out to be the in tank fuel pump. There are 2 pumps total.






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