posted by
someone claiming to be Tad Crohn
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Thu Apr 5 06:47 CST 2001 [ RELATED]
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I am trying to buy the safest and most reliable volvo I can afford ($15k and under)in the next couple of days. After much comparing of the crashtest.com site and other crashtest reports and consumer reports reliability surveys, that the 850 for 1996 is the best combination of safety, reliability, and affordability for me. Safety comes first for me, then reliability, and finally money although this is a second car so I would like something less than $15,000. Any buying advice? Any preferences between the sedan and the wagon? I think I am looking for a non-turbo model for greater reliability and the wagons look nice. I would like to find a manual (also for greater economy and reliability), but that looks hard to find. The traction control looks like a nice feature - I don't know if it has reliability problems or would make the car harder to repair. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks.
P.S. I have a friend whose father is in the used car business. Do you think it would make any sense to try and get him to purchase one at auction? I tend to think buying one from a single owner or a dealer where service records are available would be a better bet.
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posted by
someone claiming to be Ken
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Fri Apr 6 02:01 CST 2001 [ RELATED]
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First - Good Luck with your search!
Last year we were in the same situation and kept seacrhing internet sites and happen to find a manual '94 wagon on carpoint.com a nearby Honda dealer had and really liked it so much I bought a second 850 ('93 GLT Sedan) off ebay. What we did is visit a Volvo dealer to see what the 850's were like. There is a GREAT difference in how they where appointed. The low end with no frills is still a Volvo but sucked compared to on with some options! I like the leather seats, traction control (great in winter areas), headlight wipers, sunroof etc...
As for sedan vs. wagon, for me both drive great! I like the way the wagon handles a bit better, (possibly the difference between 94 manual and 93 automatic) but the sedan has a better sound system and looks better.
And one strong suggestion - sign up with carfax.com to run reports on any car you are looking at. It is well worth the $19.95. One car I was looking was stolen in Texas and given a salvage title in South Carolina and was on a New York dealer's lot!
Good Hunting!
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posted by
someone claiming to be Ray Niblett
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Thu Apr 5 10:22 CST 2001 [ RELATED]
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I believe side air bags were optional. There will be
a sticker on the door if it has them. The door sticker
will also indicate the airbags need inspection/replacing
after 10 years (there is an expiration date). I understand
Volvo feels they can go to 15 years now so don't worry
about that sticker.
I'd look for the service records and be aware of any
re-occuring problems.
Turbo models are as reliable as non-turbos and not much more
expensive.
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posted by
someone claiming to be Jim Quigley
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Thu Apr 5 12:41 CST 2001 [ RELATED]
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I'm not sure that side air bags were optional. According to the Edmund web site, all 1996's had side air bags and the 1996 met the 1997 side collision standards. Also, neither Edmund nor Kellybluebook.com list side air bags among the options for appraising a car. "Dual airbag restraints" is automatically selected in both web sites under the options menu. Does anyone have personal knowledge of a 1996 which does not have side airbags?
2000 S80T6, 1996 850GLT
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posted by
someone claiming to be Ray Niblett
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Fri Apr 6 05:06 CST 2001 [ RELATED]
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I think you are right. They were optional in 95 (we wanted
them but had no porblem finding a 95 with em.)
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posted by
someone claiming to be Peter Chiu
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Thu Apr 5 10:22 CST 2001 [ RELATED]
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I would go for '97 as the last model year. As they throw in more stuff on base model than '96. Look for those SE as they may be a bargain with the special edition package. I think side air bag started at '95 1/2 model year.
I have a wagon with traction, even with 3rd row seats for kids. Wagon is more flexible, as you never know what things your wife (husband) wants to buy. Last time was a long track mill from Sears.
Some draw back for wagon is nosier than sedan because of the open trunk area, also not that safe with cargo or gorceries in the trunk, unless it comes with the steel cage divider.
Like you, I want every safety device I could afford/buy, so traction control and side bags is a must for us. No major problem but a whole lot of minor annoy problems. Just regret did not get the steel cage divider.
Wagon comes with intergal child booster in the arm rest, and 100 watts upgrade audio system for '97.
I would say wagon looks better than sedan, even better with the tailgate spolier.
Peter
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posted by
someone claiming to be Jim
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Thu Apr 5 10:14 CST 2001 [ RELATED]
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A Volvo dealer MIGHT have taken a nice one in trade. Ask! You are at a huge disadvantage buying "in a couple of days" Try to give yourself as much time as possible to get a good one, so you won't feel pressured into getting one you don't really feel totally comfortable buying..
If you can find one with books and records, sometimes you can call the shop who stamped the maintenance manual and ask about the car, if you are lucky they will remember it and be willing to tell you the truth about it.
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posted by
someone claiming to be Rob
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Thu Apr 5 08:16 CST 2001 [ RELATED]
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Regarding the purchase of auction autos: I bought both our 850's at an auction in the SF area. Neither had any paperwork with it, which is a major risk in the first place. The first was a 96 that I bought in 98 with 30K on it. The second was a 95 turbo that I bought in 2000 with 60K on it. I've found that they're 2 different cars. I've had the 96 longer and I've taken really good care of it - we absolutely loved it and that's what prompted us to get another from the auction. No problems so far (now it's got 70K on it). The turbo has been another story. The odometer is clicking away in km rather than miles, half the lights on the instrument panel are out, the AC isn't working, it needed new brakes and tires. I love these cars and now that everything is going great (except for the odometer) I think that it was probably worth it. But beware the risks of the auction!
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posted by
someone claiming to be Tom LeStrange
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Thu Apr 5 07:28 CST 2001 [ RELATED]
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KC,
Hold out for a Turbo. You won't be sorry. As far as I have seen there is no reliability hit, but there is a big performance gain.
I am not positive but, I beleive that not all 96 models came with side air bags, but all Turbo models did.
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posted by
someone claiming to be KC
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Thu Apr 5 07:05 CST 2001 [ RELATED]
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Try to find one where the owner has all of the service records and stamps in the book. I often see them advertised by local owners that way...Volvo owners seem to like to keep records. With regular maintenance, it should last a good long time. I rarely hear of turbo failures on this board. If you cant get the records, I'd recommend having the AC system pressure tested (notorious failure area), as well as a complete lookover by a good shop.
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posted by
someone claiming to be Johnny Tam
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Sat Apr 7 17:30 CST 2001 [ RELATED]
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I am a first owner of a 95 Volvo 850 Turbo. I had 72K on the car now. So far, the car is running great. All the turbos starting from 95 have side airbag including mine. =)
I don't have any problems with my car for the last 2 years. However, I got small problems, like the micro switch besides the transmission, some kinda sensors. The only big problem I got is the A/C, the evaporator is broken and the Volvo dealer told me that's a really common problem for Volvo and it's covered under warranty. However, you can't really tell when the evaporator will die. There is no trace or way to predict when it will die.
It's more worth it to get a turbo, more fun to drive!!!!
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posted by
someone claiming to be Lucy
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Sun Apr 8 14:01 CST 2001 [ RELATED]
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Johnny,
I've not heard of the evaporator being under warranty after 50,000 miles. Are you sure the dealer said that. If so, what dealer and where? Mine said a new evaporator will cost $1156. I keep recharging my A/C hoping for some more time.
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