Volvo AWD V50 Forum

INDEX FOR 10/2025(CURRENT) INDEX FOR 3/2018 V50 INDEX

[<<]  [>>]


THREADED THREADED EXPANDED FLAT PRINT ALL
MESSAGES IN THIS THREAD




  REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE    PRINT   SAVE 

V50 gas type V50 2010

Our new 2010 V50 says to use premium gasoline. Can we use regular 87 or will that mess things up? Can the timing be changed to run properly on 87? From what I have read online folks basically say to try different octanes and check for pinging, mpgs, responsiveness, etc.








  •   REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE Replies to this message will be emailed.    PRINT   SAVE 

    V50 gas type V50 2010

    Thanks everyone. We will use what is supposed to be used. The owner's manual gets delivered this week so we can see exactly what octane is required.








    •   REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE    PRINT   SAVE 

      V50 gas type V50 2010

      For my S60, 91 octane is recommended but not required. The engineers that designed my car know a thing or two about it. For that reason alone, I use 91 octane. However, there was a period of time (about a year) when I did use Regular 87. I noticed the following:
      1. Fuel economy was identical -- no change whatsoever. This "old mechanic's tale" that octane affects fuel economy proved to be untrue for my car. I keep meticulous records.
      2. There was a tad of pinging at high revs. It might have been my imagination.

      Not every station sells 91. When I can't get it I use 89, or if I have time I mix 89 and 93. You don't have to be finicky about this stuff -- just use some common sense. By the way, the guys on CarTalk would probably tell you to go ahead and use 87 and worry about something else.








    •   REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE Replies to this message will be emailed.    PRINT   SAVE 

      Online owner's manual V50 2010

      The volvo site has a manual online for most cars:

      http://www.volvocars.com/us/top/community/pages/yourvolvo.aspx

      At the bottom of the page is a place to put year and model info.

      Klaus
      --
      Always willing to listen, just not able to take direction.








  •   REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE Replies to this message will be emailed.    PRINT   SAVE 

    Follow your owners manual, or you can lose more money .... and you can't change the timing. V50 2010

    Your manual probably reads that you should use "premium", or some certain AKI (antiknock index, what we used to call octane rating) number, for optimum performance. That means no reduction in fuel economy or power output.

    It also probably reads that you can use some mid-grade fuel, or (again) some certain lower AKI, as a minimum. However, you will find less than optimum performance. The reason is that the engine will occasional ping in certain conditions (load, acceleration, temperature, etc.) that will make the computer reduce the spark advance and change the fuel mixture.

    This will lower your fuel economy, at the very least (it also lowers power output, and is not good for your combustion sensors, etc.) So think about this: if you save 10 cents per gallon, that's about (at today's prices) 2.5% of the cost of your fuel ($0.10/$4.00) -- you will certainly experience more than that reduction in fuel mileage, so you're actually losing money from that decision.

    And absolutely No, you cannot change the timing on your car. Sure, when distributors could be manually "rotated" to change the ignition timing, that could be used to prevent ping (but it retards the spark and reduces economy and power). However, in our newer cars, the timing is controlled by a computer based on the position of the crankshaft (i.e., flywheel), and rotation of the distributor (if even possible) has no effect.








  •   REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE    PRINT   SAVE 

    V50 gas type - use premium, exactly what the engineers specified V50 2010

    Really, your car will be happier long term with the specified gasoline and will have more power. If you want a car that runs on regular, get a generic Chevy, Ford, Toyota, etc.








  •   REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE Replies to this message will be emailed.    PRINT   SAVE 

    V50 gas type V50 2010

    The knock sensors will hear any 'pinging' long before your ears can, and when that happens: The mixture gets enriched and the timing retarded, resulting in poor gas mileage and soot coated O2 sensors. Typically, the 'regular' gasoline does not contain any cleaner additives, which help keep the injectors and valve seats clean.

    The turbo is more suited to use 87 octane because of the lower compression ratio, BUT, the low pressure turbo comes on at about 1500 rpm and raises the ratio to over 10.5:1.

    The normally aspirated engine has a ratio of about 10:1 which requires 'premium' gasoline.

    Many have found that if they drive nicely, meaning gentle accelleration and without long hills, the 89 octane works for them. But do not go over 4500 rpm, because the extra heat will cause pinging.

    The differencee in price is 10 cents/gallon between each grade. For an 18 gallon tank, that is $1.80 or $3.60 for a tank that will take you close to 500 miles. Less than one cup of Starbucks! Be kind to your car and use the grade that will keep the engine clean and efficient.

    Klaus
    --
    Always willing to listen, just not able to take direction.







<< < > >>



©Jarrod Stenberg 1997-2022. All material except where indicated.


All participants agree to these terms.

Brickboard.com is not affiliated with nor sponsored by AB Volvo, Volvo Car Corporation, Volvo Cars of North America, Inc. or Ford Motor Company. Brickboard.com is a Volvo owner/enthusiast site, similar to a club, and does not intend to pose as an official Volvo site. The official Volvo site can be found here.