posted by
someone claiming to be Tom
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Tue Dec 26 11:50 CST 2000 [ RELATED]
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I looked the other day for a tool set for my '93 850, but all I could find were 3/8" (or whatever). Someone said I needed a hex set, in mm? Can anyone suggest a favorite brand?
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posted by
someone claiming to be Wayne
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Wed Dec 27 02:42 CST 2000 [ RELATED]
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Craftsman tools are pretty good quality. Recommended in addition to the basic sockets, wrenches, and screwdrivers is a set of torx drivers. I have a couple of torx screwdrivers and they are nowhere near as good as the torx sockets that go with the ratchet. These can generate a lot more torque. Heed Rich's advice and get a few long ones, especially the 40 size so you can reach the t-stat housing. Unfortunately, I could not find this at Sears and had to settle for an off-brand at my corner auto parts store.
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posted by
someone claiming to be Ken
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Wed Dec 27 01:24 CST 2000 [ RELATED]
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Don't waste your money on Snap-on tools. Even though they are the best tools , they are very over priced. You can buy Craftsman tools which are just about as good, if not as good , for about 1/4 the price. The only reason that Snap-on can stay in buisness is that they let people buy tools on weekly payment plans.
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posted by
someone claiming to be Dave the Volvo Tech
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Thu Jan 4 16:05 CST 2001 [ RELATED]
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Ken-
Don't waste your money on Volvo cars. Even though they are the best cars, they are overpriced. You can buy brand X, which do the same thing, but maybe not quite as safe, or quiet, or last as long, for a lot less. The only reason Volvo can stay in business is the yuppies have got to have them to pose at Starbucks.
Seriously-
I don't like Craftsman because they have sharp edges on the wrench handles. Coming from someone who makes their living with their own tools, paid for with their own money, I buy more Snap-On than everything else combined. I admit to running a truck account but buy one item at a time and make a respectable weekly payment. In return, I get 'the best tools' available, delivered to my workplace, and excellent service from my dealer. If anything is broken, no questions asked, just prompt replacement.
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posted by
someone claiming to be VolvoFan
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Fri Jan 5 07:20 CST 2001 [ RELATED]
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Dave the Volvo Tech wrote:
> Ken-
> Don't waste your money on Volvo cars. Even though they are the best
> cars, they are overpriced.
You're kidding right?
> You can buy brand X, which do the same
> thing, but maybe not quite as safe, or quiet, or last as long, for a
> lot less. The only reason Volvo can stay in business is the yuppies
> have got to have them to pose at Starbucks.
I'm afraid you're quite confused with the BMW driver Dave. Now you're talking overpriced cars!!
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posted by
someone claiming to be Steve F.
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Fri Jan 5 04:45 CST 2001 [ RELATED]
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Dave, It is very very hard for a someone who does not use hand tools every day of the week, to put food on the table, to understand what we are talking about. I dont turn wrenches for a living any more,(motorcycle mechanic for many years)thank god I am now kinda retired, but I still have over $20K in tools and boxes that dont get used even once a week......think I would sell.......no thanks!
Snap-On tools are "profesional" tools.....not realy intended for the week-end mechanic, or the household......but I am 100% sure they are the best ther is.
Steve Ferraro
hoboken, NJ
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posted by
someone claiming to be Ken
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Fri Jan 5 04:07 CST 2001 [ RELATED]
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You have to look at the context of the post. This guy has no tools and is looking for some tools to learn how to work on his own car. Also go feel a set of the craftsman proffesional polished wrenches, no sharp edges. If you break a craftsman tool there are no questions asked just prompt immediate replacement. No sale slip required. You do have to go to the Sears store. Try returning a Snap-on tool if you live in the suburbs. You will be waiting a long time for the Snap-on truck to come to your house to exchange a screwdriver.
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posted by
someone claiming to be Paul S.
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Fri Jan 5 06:24 CST 2001 [ RELATED]
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I agree!!
Hey I like Snap-On and own some Snap-On tools. I also own a lot of Craftsman and Proto and Facom and Husky and a shit boat of other brands of tools as well.
I like going to Sears on Sunday right after church!! (I love using craftsman screwdrivers for pry bars, cause I get an excuse to go back to the Sears lingerie section- just kidding)
I remember my first swap meet cheapie Chinese metric socket and closed/open combo end wrench set 28 years ago!! They only missed by a silly millimeter or two!!
So the bottom line is: HOME Toolers should know it really is best to buy the best quality tools appropriate to your budget and that sometimes that doesn't mean Snap-On.
NEVER EVER cheap out on air tools.....I guess that's a different subject.
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posted by
someone claiming to be Yuri
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Fri Jan 5 04:14 CST 2001 [ RELATED]
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Can Snap-On tool be ordered by mail? Somewhere on-line? Or they sell them from their truck only?
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posted by
someone claiming to be Adam Rosenfeld
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Fri Jan 5 05:13 CST 2001 [ RELATED]
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Someone posted this the other day.
www.snapon.com
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posted by
someone claiming to be Prospero
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Fri Jan 5 04:57 CST 2001 [ RELATED]
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Snap-on has a web site. I have ordered several things from them, but found that it is better and cheaper to hook up with the tool truck. Check out any local repair shop of decent size and the should be able to tell you the schedule for the Snap-on truck to the area. Usually they run within a few hours of their schedule.
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posted by
someone claiming to be George Swift
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Fri Jan 5 03:30 CST 2001 [ RELATED]
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One can easily rate a mechanic by the tools he uses. I use Snap-on.
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posted by
someone claiming to be Steve F.
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Wed Dec 27 03:10 CST 2000 [ RELATED]
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Ken, If you ever had to use hand tools to earn a living, as I did(was everything from service manager to line mechanic at some of the biggest motorcycle dealerships in the NYC Metro area for many years) you would find out VERY quickly that there is a VERY big diference between Snap-On, and craftsman tools. In fact its like night and day! I am not saying Caftsman tools are no good.....they are good for the home, or the weekend repair job here and there, but to use them every day for hours on end would be like torture in comparison to Snap-On. You only get what you pay for.
Oh and BTW....I think the statment that the only reason Snap-On can stay in buisness is because they have a weekly payment plan, is like the most off the wall thing I heard in a long time!
Sears also has their own credit card....and yes, you can buy tools with it.
Steve Ferraro
Hoboken, NJ
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posted by
someone claiming to be Barry
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Sat Dec 30 01:23 CST 2000 [ RELATED]
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I agree... Unless you are a mechanic or have a great degree of disposable income.
I have a bunch of craftsman tools. I tinker and do some of my own work, what I can. New, I buy craftsman.
Used, I have bought NAPA, MAC, and SnapOn from local pawn shops. The savings are amazing. Paid $60 for a set of metric deep-set impact sockets. That is $300+ new.
There is a significant difference in the design and quality of the tools in question. Most definitely...
Barry
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posted by
someone claiming to be Ken
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Wed Dec 27 04:24 CST 2000 [ RELATED]
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> Oh and BTW....I think the statment that the only reason Snap-On can
> stay in buisness is because they have a weekly payment plan, is like
> the most off the wall thing I heard in a long time!
If you think that that statment is off wall then you don't really know what you are talking about. I have two friends who own body shops. I know the workers and I see them running to the Snap-on truck like it is the candy truck. These people couldn't even get credit cards and they have instant credit on the Snap-on truck. The truck comes every payday for the small payments. Only a few special snap-on tools are necessary and the rest aren't any better than sears tools. I like my Sears polished comination wrench set better than the snap-on wrenches and they cost 1/4 the price. The ratchets might have three less clicks but I can live with it. My screwdrivers work fine.
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posted by
someone claiming to be Peter Cohen
on
Wed Dec 27 18:42 CST 2000 [ RELATED]
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I like the feel of Snap-On tools. I can see how, when you work with tools all day long, you can appreciate the subtleties of the feel of their tools.
But, since I no longer do it professionally, most of my tool purchases are Craftsman. BTW, for my birthday, my wife went to Sears and bought me a set of those wrenches that are open-end on one side and a ratcheting box-end on the other. The set went from 8MM to 18MM, with no 17MM. I called the manufacturer's 800 number and said "in 30 years I've never even seen an 18MM bolt head, but I use 17MM all the time. What were you guys thinking?" They responded that the mix of sizes was what Sears asked for.
I decided to exchange them for an American sized set, since I would be needing them in tight clearances on my V12 Jaguar more than on the Volvos. Oh yes, there was no 11/16th in the American set, but at least all the sizes that were there were useful.
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posted by
someone claiming to be rich
on
Wed Dec 27 14:24 CST 2000 [ RELATED]
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I like Snap On.
Since I am not in the businress, I took my 40 year old 3/8 ratchet
to the independent that I use and they had Snap-On replace the working parts free. Of course Sears says tools guarenteed forever, but it is not the same tool.
I have a Sears combination wrench set, a 1/2 inch drive socket set up to 1 inch, ratchet, breaker bar, etc. A socket split. The replacement has a wall thickness about twice as thick! A replacement 5/8 combo wrench is much thicker in every dimension. Not good since it limits where I can get into.
I like the old ones with really good metal, instead of the new ones with average metal. Not needing to buy many tools I would buy the Snap-On to get thin sections so I can get into tight places.
Rich, with little real data.
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posted by
someone claiming to be Steve F.
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Wed Dec 27 04:30 CST 2000 [ RELATED]
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posted by
someone claiming to be Rich K. Fairfax, VA
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Tue Dec 26 14:03 CST 2000 [ RELATED]
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Torx set, 1/4 drive, 15mm,20mm,25mm,30mm, 3/8 drive 35mm,40mm,45mm
The 3/8 40mm should be at least 6 inches long for the T-stat removal.
The only hex I can think you really need is a 3mm (1/4 in drive) to remove the rotor, oh ya a 7mm to remove the slide pins on the front brakes.
95% of my tools are snap-on, good tools, warranty for life and the guy stops by the shop every thursday.
If you can't find a snap-on dealer Sears will work.
snapon.com is a link I haven't tried but it's there.
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posted by
someone claiming to be Steve F.
on
Tue Dec 26 12:17 CST 2000 [ RELATED]
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#1. Snap-On
#2. MAC
#3. Craftsman
Steve Ferraro
hoboken, nj
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posted by
someone claiming to be Sky Lew
on
Wed Jan 3 04:26 CST 2001 [ RELATED]
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#4 in tools, HomeDepot sells a set of 3/8" TORX sockets for $20 that work well. Husky happens to be the brand name.
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