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warm it up or drive? V70-XC70

Trying to set my records straight. I have a 98 XC70, 195K on her and the car runs well. I know this will be greeted by mixed thoughts... in cold weather is it best to hit my remote start and let it idle for 5 mins then drive, or start, wait 15 seconds then drive.

Reason I ask is...cold weather, concerns about oil making its way to the top of the engine, etc.

Historically I have always let my cars run at idle for quite a bit before driving in the winter. It seems logical since oil is thick at 21 degrees F. I know my car warms up quick (as have all my other bricks)...but what say the masses regarding this? Higher mileage car and I just want to treat her well in the "senior" years so to speak.

Regards.
Steve








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    warm it up or drive?zinc V70-XC70

    it depends on how cold it is or course, and how close you are to an onramp as suggested by another poster.

    Ideally you will start with good oil. Fully synthetic is best, and I don't mean the typical 'charge through the teeth for barely better' group III oils. Also the lower the first number the better. A few of us on here are using 0W-30 synthetics and that is the way to go in the winter if it's cold where you live.

    If you're concerned about 'cold start' wear/damage you'd probably do well to look into a low weight diesel oil, again 0W-30. Gasoline oils have had all the zinc and phosphates pulled out (these provide the 'plating' one poster commented on) but diesel oils still have them. Diesel oils have great properties for turbos too. As long as it meets API-SG or whatever your car calls for it will work just fine in your car despite the diesel specs that it also meets.

    (For reference, your manual probably says API-SG or whatever, but all new oils will say API-SJ or maybe even API-SN. The last letter is what's important - as long as it is a 'higher' letter than the one called for in your manual you're fine. So if your car calls for API-SH, than API-SJ or API-SN are fine, but API-SG would not be recommended.)

    Idle the car for 10-30 sec tops. Idling creates a lot of gasoline contamination in the crankcase and can really do a number in terms of acid formation. I usually let the car idle while I scrap the windows and brush the snow off, but that's it.

    Drive it easily for a few minutes while it warms up - you're right to be concerned about enough oil getting to the top end and flowing to the turbocharger, but the best way to warm the oil up is to drive the car without really laying into the throttle. When it's /really/ cold I drive in 2nd/3rd gear until it warms up, trying to keep the rpms about 2000-2500 or so. You don't want to race it because the oil isn't lubing properly yet, but you want the engine making heat and splashing the oil as much as possible.

    Once the temp gauge is up and the heater is on, wait another couple of minutes or so before you really start to lay on the throttle in the high rpms, because the oil will be a bit colder than the coolant.

    Than have fun!
    --
    1998 V70 AWD->FWD Turbo 200k+








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    warm it up or drive? V70-XC70

    F,

    Drive it gently for the first minute or so since the air pump doesn't engage until the car is moving. This means the car is emitting more pollutants than necessary.

    If your house is 50 feet from the entrance ramp to a freeway then you'd probably want to let it idle for a bit before full throttle.

    Also, follow the factory recommendation for the average temperature range in your area. IIRC it is 5 W 30.

    Full synthetic is best.

    Enjoy,
    Bryan








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    warm it up or drive? V70-XC70

    Interesting discussion. I would be interested in hearing why the complex Auto-
    transmission with close valve tolerances and possible by-pass reliefs wouldn't be the main component of concern when discussing best warm up procedures. I acknowledge it does use a "lighter viscosity " oil. I think overall ,for the all car components, the below, "start and drive slow for awhile" makes the best overall sense.








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    warm it up or drive? V70-XC70

    Warm it up as you drive. It gets zero miles to the gallon out there idling. The worst thing is to run it for a tenth of a mile and then shut it off. This invites condensation to form inside the engine. You might want to consider synthetic oil. I think one of its advantages is that it leaves a coating in the engine so that you eliminate the problem of running an engine for a couple of seconds with no oil upon start-up when cold has contracted the steel and reduced the tolerances. Other bricksters will know more about this than I do








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    warm it up or drive? V70-XC70

    It is the type of oil you use and the weight that makes the difference. You should be using synthetic and 5 or 10W30. If you are, then start the car and wait for just 15 seconds. Do not 'floor' the pedal until you the blower starts trying to give you heat, usually less than 1 mile.

    If you are using heavy oil, flush it out. Anything heavier than 10W30 is not good for your engine.

    You should have butt warmers; so start the car, turn on the butt warmer, put it in gear and go.

    Klaus
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    Always willing to listen, just not able to take direction.








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      warm it up or drive? V70-XC70

      Thanks Gentlemen,

      I am currently running Mobil 1 High Mileage 5w30. It has always been a topic of interest and different opinion regarding what to do. I am babying this car as its my 4th Brick and I want her to last...body and interior are like showroom new and with 195K you can tell the previous owner took care to it.

      Best,
      Steve








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        warm it up or drive? V70-XC70

        If by 'baby my car' you mean avoid potholes, hard cornering, washing the salt off regularly, and maintaining all fluids, then that is a good thing.

        But do not 'baby' the rpms, except in 1st gear. Occasionally shift to 3 or L to get the revs past 3500 to help the valves rotate. Use good gasoline.

        A Volvo is not only fairly safe, but is meant to put a smile on your face when you drive it! So, don't let the engine get hot spots by idling it for 5-10 minutes each morning. Just drive it like you know what you are doing, and avoid the roud-a-bouts.

        Merry Christmas,

        Klaus
        --
        Always willing to listen, just not able to take direction.







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