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Transmitter range (remote keyless entry) V70-XC70 2001

Hi

While I have been extremely happy with my new 2001 T5 (helps to be comparing to a Taurus wagon), the remote keyless entry is annoying. (Why you cannot confirm that you locked the car by hitting lock again is beyond me. My wife's Acura will happily beep to tell you the car is locked as many times as you ask.)

But the issue here is: what range do people get on their remotes. I seem to have to come to within about 15 feet of the car to get the lights turned on. This makes the remote useless for finding the car in a crowded parking lot. If this is typical, then such is life. If not,then I will complain to the dealer and get it fixed. Or if others have had this problem and fixed, how did they do so.

Thanks much

neal








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    Re: Transmitter range (remote keyless entry) V70-XC70 2001

    Neal, the remote to the chin trick does work but the reason and the answer has to do with the placement of the transmitter in the remote. In order to maximize your range you need to point the right side edge of the remote at the remote sensor (on the dash as I recall). Depending on the surroundings it may require you to elevate your remote so the signal clears the front end of the car or the rear seats and trunk lid depending on your position. I learned of this solution about a year ago or so from someone else here. I can now get a range of up to 100 feet or so in optimum conditions for our V70 and S80. Hope this helps.

    Thanks.

    -rdo








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      Re: Transmitter range (help me understand...) ALL

      What is this, some kind of contest? Competition? I just don't get it.

      If mine has a range of 5 feet, it works. I fail (help me understand) to

      get it: what's the advantage of being able to lock/unlock your car from

      greater distances?

      Within 5 feet (OK, sometimes 10), I can hear the power door locks lock.

      People further away can't, but a big part of security is not calling

      any excess attention to a valuable target anyway.

      As long as I don't have to use my key to lock my car upon exiting (which

      Volvos formerly required before RF locking!), the thing is serving its main

      purpose as far as I'm concerned. And when it saves me from having to use

      the key to unlock the door as I reach for it, mission accomplished once

      again.

      I suppose, if I were tinged with whatever makes some of you folks want to

      try for distance records, I could soup up my xmitter to work from 3000 feet

      away (4000' and a burn mark if you use your chin trick). While I'm not

      sure how this would benefit me, I do know that it would be to the detriment

      of my fellow Volvo owners:

      Abe, how many different-code transmitters are there (probably varies by

      year) anyway? The problem of one owner inadvertently unlocking another

      owner's car is exaccerbated, not solved, by having extended range.

      Having infinite range on these suckers would be as counter-productive as

      having infinite range on a radar detector.

      Congratulations on the 100'. Now tell me how/why you care, and what it's

      good for, please. Does it help you like your car more or use it better?

      Don't buy a car designed by me -- it'd probably have roughly half that

      maximum range (and 4 times the battery life and/or weigh less!). Unless

      you can help me to understand how 100' is twice as good as (or even better

      than) 50'...

      I just don't get it!!!

      - Dave; '95 854T, 101K mi


       

       

       

      How dumb is too dumb?









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        There is a panic button on the remote. Lets say you ran into trouble while walking toward your car in a parking lot, you can used your remote to call attention or scared someone. You can also used this function to locate your car that you left on the airport lot and you forgot to write down where you parked it a week ago.

        This is two example where a remote with a range greater than 5 ft. is usefull.








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          Re: Transmitter range (security essay) ALL

          Thank you for the two examples, which I hadn't considered.

          > function to locate your car that you left on the airport lot and you

          > forgot to write down where you parked it a week ago.

          Well, that sounds like someone trying to misuse a security(?) feature to

          help compensate for forgetfulness. Useful, perhaps, but counterproductive

          to the purpose of the system.

          Security. What is security?

          Best security makes it as easy as possible for the good guys and as hard

          as possible for the bad guys. Trying to make it do more than that tends

          to reduce its effectiveness.

          Good security is not broadcasting your lock/unlock RF keys over such a

          wide area that you can be sure that an RF-code-stealing-thief can grab

          them, and also means not having the car point itself out to said thief

          when he re-broadcasts the grabbed code(s) after you've left...

          Once you try to make the key too fancy and far-reaching, the less secure

          it is.

          You know, your house key undoubtedly opens locks on other houses. And,

          similarly, others' keys can open the locks on your house! Once it becomes

          too easy to try (broadcast) a key in a large number of locks

          simultaneously, security tends to be reduced, not enhanced.

          So consider over how broad an area you wish to always broadcast your key!

          (And over how broad an area you'd like others broadcasting theirs!)

          My remote has no panic button, and I've never needed nor wanted nor thought

          about one; I was thinking about remote keyless entry. Further, is there

          one person left on earth does not, with varying success, tune out all

          obnoxious car alarm noises? If I wanted to call attention to a bad

          situation, I'm not sure how I'd do it (likely the Loud dog whistle on my

          key ring), but having to rely upon a car alarm wailing would not make me

          feel much/any better in a "panic" situation. You can carry a portable

          noise-maker if this is a big concern, though I remain at a loss to know if

          it's preferable to have a blaring noise 1' away, 50' away, or 100' away

          while being attacked.

          The less far-reaching the RF transmitter's effect, the less likely that

          someone else's remote has unlocked your car without your knowledge, the

          less likely your code's been grabbed (it's safe to assume the code can be

          grabbed from even farther than your can can respond to it), the less likely

          your car and its contents are not the way you left them or that there is

          a bad guy hiding in the back seat awaiting your return.

          Just because RF is invisible to you doesn't mean it's invisible to the

          bad guys, to whom you're broadcasting an exact copy of your key every time

          you push that button. (I believe Volvo's still using non-varying codes.)

          So if you're that worried about the bad guys getting you(r car), the last

          thing in the world you want is an extended transmitter range, and the

          2nd-last thing in the world you want is for your car to say LOOK AT *ME*

          every time the code is transmitted.

          IMO, that's much worse than a login portal that reveals the difference

          between a nonexistent account and an incorrect password, which is

          considered bad security.

          So what some see as an Acura feature (see

          http://brickboard.com/READER/?file=10050855&referer=AWD ), others see as

          an Acura security lapse, and still others see as easier pickings. We all

          have our own viewpoints...

          Roll on,

          - Dave; '95 854T, 101K mi











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            Re: Transmitter range (security essay) ALL

            Dave....You are a one strange dude....but you are OK in my book, and your posts are fun to read, but kinda long.

            Oh....and Volvo uses "rolling codes" in all the newer models.

            And....as for how far away you can be when lock/unlock your car.....sometimes its just fun to see how far it can go. These cars are WAY down on the list of cars to be stolen anyway!

            Steve Ferraro

            Hoboken, NJ









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            Re: Transmitter range (security essay) ALL

            No need to worry about having the security code "stolen" for the V70 because the system has a random code that is changed each time the doors are unlocked with the remote. The code that the "bad guys" capture this time you open your car will open it the next time it is locked.








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            Re: Transmitter range (security essay) ALL

            Dave, how are you today? You seemed a little stressed in your last two postings...hope all is well.

            The purpose of having a longer range remote for me is not to unlock the car. It is to illuminate it from a 'safer' distance (and yes occasionally find it as well). The remotes on our S80 and V70 have buttons to illuminate the exterior lighting (lighting at the corners of the car and under the side view mirrors to shine on the ground around the car). I think you made too much of a leap of logic in thinking people want or need extremely long distance remotes. In happens that in some cases you can use it from long distances but few of us seem to need to do so (now a remote starter would be a different thing - plenty of reason for a long range remote especially on cold days when you might want to preheat the car from inside but a questionable device from a 'security' perspective.)

            Hopefully these responses have given you a different perspective.

            Take care.

            -rdo









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          Re: Transmitter range (help me understand...) ALL

          The two situations just mentioned are two of the three I was thinking of when I originally posted. The third is you walk away from your car and you think "did I lock it?" I don't want to walk back to within 5 ft of the car to figure that one out.

          My fear is that it is the back window tint that has greatly lowered the range of the transmitter. Guess I will take that tradeoff.

          Thanks for all the responses. At least I now know where both the transmitter and receiver are.

          Neal








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    Re: Transmitter range (remote keyless entry) V70-XC70 2001

    A few days back there was a post saying that the alarm could be set to flash the lights once with a long flash for armed, and once short for un-armed.....or was it the other way around???

    Anyhow its like a trip to the dealer and a download that=$$$...so mine is just fine.

    Oh...and its easy to find my car in the parking lots.....its always ALL the way in the back in a end spot.....far away from the door ding zone.

    Steve Ferraro

    Hoboken, NJ









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      Re: Transmitter range (remote keyless entry) V70-XC70 2001

      You must be that guy that guy that parks near me all the time! As for the distance that my remote will work, with a new battery, and a clear line of sight, I was able to lock my 98 V70 from the end of the block, 250-300 ft. These days I'm lucky if it works from half that distance. Obstructions bring the distance down to about 30 ft.

      Koz.








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        Re: Transmitter range (remote keyless entry) V70-XC70 2001

        Metallized window tint destroys the remote range.

        ->2000 s-v 70 and any C70 have receiver above the inst cluster.

        S80, V70 2001 has receiver in the inside rear view mirror.








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    Re: Transmitter range (remote keyless entry) V70-XC70 2001

    Hi Neal -

    In some bad areas, my range is about ten feet. But I typically can turn the lights on from at least 50 feet away - even with the remote at pocket-level. The remote-to-the-chin trick is a winner to help increase the range in a pinch, but you should have better range than 15 feet if you're parked in the relative open.

    I too, wish there was a lock confirmation. But I must add that at least there is a seperate LOCK button on this remote. On my Clifford alarm (that is otherwise excellent) you use the same button to lock and unlock. So if you're not sure if it's locked you have to press it and see what happens. More often than not, I'm simply unlocking the thing to make sure it's locked. Nothing's perfect...but somehow we get by :-)

    - Darell








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    Re: Transmitter range (remote keyless entry) V70-XC70 2001

    Hello Neal,

    The normal range I get varies mostly on the surroundings. If the car is parked in a crowded lot, I can be about 10-15 feet away. If the car is in a more isolated area, the range is much greater. A little trick my friend showed me to increase the remote range is this...hold the remote and touch it to your chin when you push the button. Sounds funny but it really works!!! Go ahead and try it.









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    Re: Transmitter range (remote keyless entry) V70-XC70 2001

    You should find therange to be 50-60 feet but the system will not operate unless you push the button and then not push it gain for approx 2 seconds. The system is security verifying your remote for 1+ second then it unlocks. If you push button again before it is done acting on the first input then you start the security verification again.

    You ahould be getting directional flash once to acknowledge that it has locked car.







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