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Winter driving mode question V70-XC70 1998

When car is in DRIVE and I push the Winter button there is a light on the Winter button that comes on and I can feel the difference. When I push the Winter button again the light goes off and the car is back to normal.

What I am trying to figure out is the 3 and Low positions.

When I shift to 3 or to Low the light on the Winter button comes on with out me touching it and the light stays on even when I push the Winter button.

According to the manuel the light on the dash is suppose to come on when I have the car in 3 or Low gear and it does. But the the Winter button is not suppose to light up unless I push the button to put it Winter mode. Also the Winter mode for 3 and Low is suppose to be different than regular 3 and Low gear.

I have not had time to get back to the dealer with this yet and I am wanting to find out if the light on the Winter button is suppose to come on like it is doing or if there is a problem I need to have my dealer look at.








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    Re: Winter/hold driving mode answers V70-XC70 1998

    (Keep in mind my car has a 4-speed transmission...)

    I owned this same (nearly identical) transmission in my previous car. It

    had different software; it was easier to understand. Instead of a WINTER

    button it had a HOLD mode/button. Same 3-position shifter, with Drive as

    the 3rd position. Press HOLD, and tranny's locked in 3rd. Press HOLD with

    the shifter in 2nd position, and tranny's locked in 2nd. 3 guesses what

    happened when HOLD was pressed while shifter was in 1st position...! Press

    the button once to engage HOLD mode; press it again to exit HOLD mode.

    Volvo seems to have bastardized the function of this switch/algorithm to

    suit its desires and marketing needs.

    UNFORTUNATELY, Volvo was too cheap to fully implement the system which, in

    my older (by 7 years) and much cheaper car, included full instrument panel

    indicators for shifter position, S/E switch position, as well as the

    function of the Hold (Winter, to Volvo) button.

    So in the Volvo, not only is there no line-of-sight indication of shifter

    position (this is very rare/cheap in *any* car with automatic transmission)

    nor of S/E switch position, the single indicator indicates (or tries to) so

    many things that it's become practically worthless! Only when the

    tranny up-arrow indicator is OFF does it really mean anything (ie, the

    shift lever is in the 3rd/Drive position and the winter mode button has not

    been pressed and there is no transmission malfunction [another of the

    indicator's functions]!).

    Now that I've told you how the Hold button worked in my Mazda (and why the

    Volvo implementation of it is half-assed); here's how it [sorta] works in

    the Volvo:

    If you leave the shifter in 3rd/Drive position and press Winter button, the

    car is in Winter mode. It will then start in 3rd gear, and upshift to 4th

    as speeds get high enough. It also has a save-the-moron feature in which,

    if the driver floors the throttle in response to the

    much-more-leisurely-than-normal acceleration (from starting in 3rd gear),

    the transmission will kick down to low gear (so the car will GO). But,

    apart from the save-the-moron kickdown feature, Winter Mode means 2-speed

    tranny (the 2 highest gears only).

    But using the same winter mode button and lighting the same indicator does

    not mean the same thing if the shifter has been moved to a lower gear! In

    such cases, the winter button functions as a Hold button (almost exactly as

    in my '88 Mazda), useful for manually controlling gear selection, which can

    be useful in all sorts of arcane situations (mountainous driving, chassis

    dyno testing, or trying to extract the last percent of performance from the

    car through a parcticular series of curves). It is also useful for

    starting from rest in 2nd gear if 1st is too low for conditions and 3rd is

    too high and Goldilocks knows how to drive.

    If you [try to] use the system to shift manually, it's possible to become

    confused (due to inadequate/missing indicators, thanks a lot Volvo!) as to

    whether or not the winter/hold mode is engaged (because once the shifter's

    not in 3rd/D position, the indicator is always on, and who has time while

    driving to look down at the console to try to notice if neither the green

    Economy nor yellow Sport indicators is on? If that sounds unsafe to you,

    wonder what Volvo was smoking when they half-implemented a fully-sorted

    design). While one can move the shifter handle to 3rd/D position to see if

    the light in the instrument panel goes out, I've learned to rock the S/E

    switch WHICH WILL ALWAYS TAKE THE ECAT OUT OF WINTER/HOLD MODE. If I

    wanted to be sure I was still in winter/hold mode, I'd rock the S/E switch

    and then press the winter/hold button.

    HTH,

    - Dave; '95 854T, 120K mi










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    Re: Winter driving mode question V70-XC70 1998

    I don't think you need to worry about it. I think this is normal - my '95 850 turbo behaves the same way as yours.








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      Re: Winter driving mode question V70-XC70 1998



      I get the same think on my V70 AWD - I think it is normal








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        Re: Winter driving mode question V70-XC70 1998

        it is normal my friend is a volvo tech. and i asked him about it.. hesaid the winter driving mode keeps u ina lower gear andplays with tracs so they car will not spin lower gear thus te arrow is on in 3 as well.









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          Re: Winter driving mode question S70 1998

          I think you mean it starts you off in a higher gear thereby minimizing power to the wheels and reducing chance of spinning.







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