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S60 New Code P0507 S60

posted by  pageda on  Fri Oct 2 12:57 CST 2009
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My neighbor has has a 2002 S60 it runs good for a while then it has a lack of power. Won't go over 40, soon it is 30 and runs real rough. Any ideas?

He got the codes at autozone or similar.


Results were:
1. P1026 fuel air metering
2. P2177 Bank 1 system too lean

AMM was not the problem above

New code P0507 appears to be related to the throttle body. Can this be cleaned with TB cleaners?
Dan







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    S60 New Code P0507 S60

    posted by  DJBybee on  Fri Oct 9 15:46 CST 2009
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    No money to be made with free ETM software downloads. There is money to be made on brake pads and rotors and various other "wallet flush" services. Nothing's free.








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      S60 New Code P0507 S60

      posted by  pageda on  Sat Oct 10 03:47 CST 2009
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      I understand, and all is probably needed. They are trying to survive too. I can help him with the simple stuff.
      Thanks again
      Dan








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    Update S60 New Code P0507 S60

    posted by  pageda on  Thu Oct 8 10:26 CST 2009
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    I was the ETM and Volvo is deciding if they want to cover it??
    They also presented him with an estimate of about $800 worth of other work they want him to do.
    Thanks for the help KlausC and DJBybee
    Dan








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    S60 New Code P0507 S60

    posted by  KlausC on  Sat Oct 3 05:59 CST 2009
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    p0507 = Idle Control System RPM High

    Do the other codes still show up? What is the idle speed, cold engine, warm engine?

    Klaus
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    Proud owner of a 1967 220S








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      S60 New Code P0507 S60

      posted by  pageda on  Sat Oct 3 06:18 CST 2009
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      He drove to the shop so I assume the idle was rough and the engine warm. When it is cold idle is 2500 once it warms up the idle goes to less than 1000 but is very rough. I doubt the injectors are bad as it runs fine when cold.

      Would a throttle body cleaning help or as I suspect is this a failed or failing electronic throttle body?

      I told him of an extended warranty Service Manager Bulletin 25-149 that covers his car related to the ETM.

      P2177 comes up again. This is from a different shop.
      They told him.

      "First off they told me that they are having problems reading the cars
      computer because the software needs to be updated and that can only be done at the Volvo Dealer.
      Or as an alternative, the mechanic told me that if I found somebody
      that has
      the original Genesis version 1.0 or has an OTC scanner then it would
      be able
      to read all the codes.

      The got the following:
      P0507 idle speed high
      P2177 lean off idle.

      Then they took the cover off the engine and found the following
      problems:
      * Definitely one and possible 3 bad injectors
      * One bad spark plug but recommended to replace the lot
      * They found engine oil on top of the engine and explained that the
      valve cover gasket needs to be replaced
      * They explained that the computer went in "limp mode" and that is the
      reason that there is no reaction when the accelerator is pushed."

      Thanks Klaus you seem to be one of the few that knows much about these newer Volvos. I'm sticking with my 240's for now.
      Dan







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        S60 New Code P0507 S60

        posted by  DJBybee on  Sat Oct 3 09:58 CST 2009
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        Wow. I wouldn't let that shop near a Volvo. For one, there is no "valve cover gasket", per se. The head is split into two pieces which sandich the cams. Oil on top of the motor is a result of oil being pushed out of the oil filler. Causes are a brittle oil cap gasket, or, more likely, excessive crankcase pressure due to a restricted breather system.

        I have only seen one bad injector on one Volvo in 12 years of working on them everyday. Coil, on the other hand, is quite common on Volvos with the coil-on-plug setup this S60 has. A distinct miss - rough idle, could be a clue.

        Generic scanners do very little for Volvos and can send you in the wrong direction. Need to extract Volvo specific codes, lest you chase your tail like you did with the AMM. Find an indy or dealership. Modern Volvos are not for the average Joe-mechanic do go futzing with, unfortunately. They are quirky and specific. Folks ask me to work on other makes and I decline because I'm not familiar with them.

        Throttle bodies can be cleaned and I have had success. Proper codes and diag are critical, however. Good luck.








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          S60 New Code P0507 S60

          posted by  pageda on  Sat Oct 3 11:24 CST 2009
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          What plugs in the crankcase ventilation system on the S60?

          Does this sound like a failed ETM? THe engine runs fine cold but at 2500 RPM, it them periodically cycles slow then fast again. It may do this several times before the rpm drops to less than a thousand and that is when it runs very rough. It could be extremely rich while running rough.

          I'm trying to convince him to talk to Volvo it may get fixed under the extended warranty for the ETM. Even if it does not he needs the Volvo diagnostics. THere is a reputable Volvo independent nearby but they don't want to look at it cause they know they can't read the codes w/o the Volvo computer.

          Just cause I have a driveway full of Volvos doesn't make me a Volvo expert. I do fine with the older ones.


          Thanks
          Dan








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            S60 New Code P0507 S60

            posted by  KlausC on  Sat Oct 3 11:47 CST 2009
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            It could be a bad ETM, but I would look at cleaning the TB. A bad coil is very possible, that would make the single spark plug look bad at low rpms.

            Send him to the dealer to get the correct codes, and avoid that mechanic he went to.

            There is a scanner for sale in Sweden for around $200, that reads Volvo specific codes up to 2007 - including SRS and service light turn off. Do a search on scanner.

            Klaus
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            Proud owner of a 1967 220S







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