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Broken Engine/Transmission Mount? Or Somethign Else? 850

posted by  4strokejoke on  Tue Jul 7 02:19 CST 2009
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Last weekend I cleaned the PCV system in my 1996 850 NA 5MT. While doing this, I noticed that the engine was not level in the engine bay and upon further inspection, there is obviously something not right.

1. The engine slants to the left
2. The top engine hanger/mount is bent to the left towards the passenger side
3. The cover for the timing belt is about 1/8" away from the AC lines and wheel well. In a friends car, this gap is almost an inch. The serpentine belt tensioner is also almost touching the AC lines/wheel well.

The car was involved in a front end crash in 98' but has obviously been driving ok since then. After carefully inspecting the whole car, it looks like the whole font end is slightly askew, maybe 1-2 inche towards the driver side. For what its worth, the car always pulls to the right.

Does anyone have a suggestion as to why the engine is not sitting correctly? Is it because of a broken engine mount or hanger or a broken transmission mount? Or could its position just be the result of the accident and things seem to work ok otherwise.

Thanks in advance for any advice.








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    Broken Engine/Transmission Mount? Or Somethign Else? 850

    posted by  4strokejoke on  Mon Jul 13 08:57 CST 2009
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    So I took a look at the front engine mount (actually the passenger side engine mount) this weekend and it was completely gone. The rubber was mostly disintegrated and I was able to pull what remaining pieces that were still there off with my hand.

    It was also missing one of the bolts into the engine.

    Needless to say, I promptly ordered a new mount today and I think this will fix my problem, or at least most of it.








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      Broken Engine/Transmission Mount? Or Somethign Else? 850

      posted by  KlausC on  Mon Jul 13 09:14 CST 2009
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      That mount usually just lasts 100K miles. fortunately it is not hard to replace, once you jack up the engine a little so the bolt holes are square.

      Klaus
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    Broken Engine/Transmission Mount? Or Somethign Else? 850

    posted by  KlausC on  Tue Jul 7 04:11 CST 2009
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    This is not an easy one. The engine should not lean towards the passenger side. You need to look at the front engine mount, which is on the passenger side. They have a tendancy to break in half.
    The tranny mount on a manual tranny can also break, so take a look on the driver's side. It is not very large and hopefully did not break off of the tranny itself.

    As far as the crash damage causing it, good possibility. Fixit2002 is correct about pulling to the right. The suspension might be bent, never having been fixed properly.

    Klaus
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    posted by  fixit2002 on  Tue Jul 7 03:17 CST 2009
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    To my mind pulling to the right is not "driving OK". How was it hit? Seems like the whole engine/tranny support is askew. You may have a real problem replaceing the accessory or timing belt. Sounds like there's really not enough room on the front of the engine.








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      Broken Engine/Transmission Mount? Or Somethign Else? 850

      posted by  4strokejoke on  Tue Jul 7 04:59 CST 2009
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      Oh, Also, it appears that it was hit straight on. On both sides behind the headlights, the metal is pushed/crumpled in equally on each side. It is clear that the front end took a decent hit at one point. If I had to guess, I would say that the whole front part of the unibody is bent.

      Even though the car drives well, I feel like I should get rid of it. I've already had to do a ton of stuff to it and things seem to come up each week.








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        Broken Engine/Transmission Mount? Or Somethign Else? 850

        posted by  KlausC on  Tue Jul 7 15:46 CST 2009
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        Nothing wrong with buying a car that has been wrecked and repaired properly. But, obviously, yours has not.

        Klaus
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      Broken Engine/Transmission Mount? Or Somethign Else? 850

      posted by  4strokejoke on  Tue Jul 7 04:54 CST 2009
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      Haha, maybe in my mind, If the Volvo gets be from point A to point B it is driving alright. But yes, it does seem that there is a large problem present.

      This weekend, I will take a look at all the mounts. Will it be clearly evident if any of them are broken or am I going to have to look for some particular sign.

      And yes, you bring up a good point, I really doubt there would be enough room to do a timing belt change.

      I'm hoping its a broken mount but my inclination is it was never fixed properly after it was wrecked. I just surprised it drives as well as it does.







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