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valvoline maxlife atf in a AW55 transmission ? V70-XC70 2004

There is a letter from Valvoline floating around the net that says Valvoline MaxLife meets the JWS3309, Volvo 1161521, and Volvo 1161540 specs. Has anyone used Valvoline MaxLife ATF in the AW55 transmission ? How did it work ?

The website is :
http://store.europarts-sd.com/MaxLife_ATF_Letter.pdf

We have a 2004 V70 2.5T, what do you think ?

Greg








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    valvoline maxlife atf in a AW55 transmission ? V70-XC70 2004

    We are all waiting for you to try it and report back :)

    The letter looks genuine and has an 1-800 number that appears to be correct. Call the number and ask about any guarantee? So long as Maxlife supports 3309 protocol it should work. Read the back of the bottle first.
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      valvoline maxlife atf in a AW55 transmission ? V70-XC70 2004

      Hello, FYI: Royal Purple markets a synthetic ATF (Max ATF) which bears a JWS 3309 spec. and is said to be a substitute for Toyota Type IV transmission fluid, among many others. BUT there's an eight item list of applications/specifications which that product doesn't meet. The label and website clearly state, "...not for Volvo 5-speed transmissions". A call to Porter, TX,(HQ), yielded a puzzled employee. I've ordered a case of Mobil 3309 from a local parts shop here in NJ. Occaisionally my 2002 V70 non-turbo, w/86K, needs time to find a gear; as if the transmission lets go of 2nd or 3rd but needs time (pumping time?) to shift into the next gear. In those scenarios I'm frequently turning onto a steep downhill road from a level one. If a trannie guy told me my gearbox and electronics were trying to decide between up-shifting or down, I'd believe him. It only occurs when fully warmed up and at slow speeds. I'm under the assumption that automatics rarely downshift; and probably not at all at slow speeds. Another feature of this transmission I'd like to know more about is the 'lock-up' torque converter. Can it hang up, contributing to a time lag in the shifting process? When I flush this thing, I'll report what I learned. Anybody out there with symptoms such as these? Woof, Kira








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        AW55 transmission V70-XC70

        Before the advent of tranny computers, shift changes were controlled by pumps. The faster the car went, the more pressure was built until there was enough to pump the gears to the next level. (short version) Most auto trannies were 2 and 3 speed, which meant at least 2 pumps plus 1 for reverse.

        With the advent of TCUs, the trannies could be shifted electronically depending on speed and engine rpm plus throttle position. This also allowed for a torque converter lockup capability in any gear, usually 3,4, and 5. It is my understanding that pumps are still used to push the correct gear into position and these pumps require very clean fluid.

        Up shifting is very logical and quite easy to program. Down shifting is a different story and depending on the programming, quite problematic. Should a car downshift at partial throttle and low speed? Eventhough the engine rpm is above idle speed? If there is no decent sensor, how can the car downshift to maintain speed?

        Occasionally, my 1998 V70 would down shift to 3rd or 2nd at 30mph on a downhill grade. My 1995 850 never did. My current behemoth has grade logic and will hold 30mph by down shifting.

        The 5 speed V70 tranny will "hunt" for the correct gear when accellerating lightly. The TCU, in combination with the ECU, will attempt to find the "best" ratio for the load on the engine. So if you were in 3rd gear with lockup and going 20mph at part-throttle, turning to go slightly downhill, and gave it just slightly less gas, it will not downshift by itself. Cut the throttle completely and it might downshift, or just leave it in the gear it is in. If the downhill is more than 100 yards, it just might down shift unless your foot is moved to the brake. The brake is important here, that info is also conveyed to the tranny and the TCU might think you are going to stop, so why down shift?

        I am glad I wasn't the person who wrote the program for the TCU! The number of variables and drivers would have been too much for me. Plus, my boss would hang me if I didn't improve MPG.

        Just a thought,
        Klaus
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