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Hello All,
This is obviously a pretty dopey question but I just finished part of my 120K service and the old plugs are still in good shape.
On the other hand, the plug in my lawmower is suspect and I haven't changed it in a while. In the interest of saving a few bucks, how might I determine whether the Volvo plugs are acceptable for use.
The lawmower takes these Champion RC12YC plugs. The thread count looks the same, the insulator depth looks the same. The only physical difference is the Volvo plugs are the three electrode type, likely less inclined to foul.
Anyone out there want to tackle this one?
Thanks in advance
Marty Wolfson
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this is great. im gonna try my old dead plugs in my lawnmower this week!
reduce, reuse, recycle baby!
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-woodsytf '95 850 wagon 160k
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There HAS to be a reason that there are SO many spark plug types available.
Many LOOK the same - if those plugs are enough hotter or colder than the correct plugs, bad things can happen.
Many mowers are noisy, you might not hear pre ignition or some other ailment until it is too late.
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'96 855R,'64 PV544 driver, '67 P1800 basket case, '95 855, '95 854, the first three are mine, heh, heh, 435,000 miles put on 9 bricks
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There is a pretty decent article on spark plugs in Wikipedia, heat range is discussed...
including -
'By examining "hotter" and "cooler" spark plugs of the same manufacturer side by side, the principle involved can be very clearly seen; the cooler plugs have more substantial ceramic insulators filling the gap between the center electrode and the shell, effectively carrying off the heat, while the hotter plugs have less ceramic material, so that the tip is more isolated from the body of the plug and retains heat better.'
You might see similarities or differences between your two plugs.
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'There is no direct relationship between the actual operating temperature of the spark plug and spark voltage. However, the level of torque currently being produced by the engine will strongly influence spark plug operating temperature because the maximum temperature and pressure occurs when the engine is operating near peak torque output (torque and RPM directly determine the power output)'
How important heat range depends somewhat upon how hard you work the engine.
and under reading plugs -
'For example, a sandblasted look to the tip of the spark plug means persistent, light detonation is occurring, often unheard. The damage that is occurring to the tip of the spark plug is also occurring on the inside of the cylinder.'
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'As another example, if the plug is too cold, there will be deposits on the nose of the plug. Conversely if the plug is too hot, the porcelain will be porous looking, almost like sugar
Good luck, I appreciate a person who is inquisitive and willing to experiment!
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'96 855R,'64 PV544 driver, '67 P1800 basket case, '95 855, '95 854, the first three are mine, heh, heh, 435,000 miles put on 9 bricks
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Good thought James,
I reverted back to my Champion plug.
I suppose that part of the problem is that the manufacturer's don't readily provide a decent comparative heat range sheet per plug.
From what I could tell from an internet search, the heat range of a plug is related to the length of the electrode and amount and size of the insulator.
Since the Champion and Volvo plug were similar, of course, with the exception of the electrode, I made the assumption that the heat ranges are similar. This may have been an erroneous assumption.
However last night at about 85 degrees F, I ran the mower for an hour with no adverse effects. I'll pull the plug today and look at it to see.
It's kind of irritating that despite all my research I cannot find a way to compare the two plugs.
Thanks for the response,
Marty
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For What its worth Marty. I think your judgments are pretty sound concerning the heat range of plugs. when all is said and done:- Its a lawnmower!
Best regards. Howard. Isle of Skye.
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Hello James.
If you are saying that it is good practice to follow manufactures plug recomendations I would be the first to agree.
Generaly the car plugs that I have on the back of the bench are long reach so dont fit much garden machinery, excepet for some four stroke lawn mowers, perhaps.
These lawn mower engines are not high perfrmance types,and will probably be quite happy with a plug of average heat range. The plugs in my turbo Volvo will be 'harder' (or 'cooler') than that, so--- may foul IF the engine burns oil. If that happened there would be no harm done, except for frustration.
I regard small high performance two stroke engines as found on strimmers to be special cases, and in any case would never accept a Volvo plug.
Smilarly I would never 'econimize' with two stroke outboards.
If it gets the grass cut, and we can get back to brickbord, and talk about sparking plugs, then I think its OK to use an average to hard type of plug in a four stroke lawn mower, especially if The 'BOSS' wants it done now. BUT! it might not be right for you. Very best regards as ever .
Howard. Isle of Skye.
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Hello oleseahorse.
This time of year I spend mountains of time fixing up every bodies garden machinery, its a good way to make friends. sparking plugs come into things quite a lot, usualy fouled, some times burnt,often not available in the right type. I have found that provided the plug has the same 'reach', and it allows the engine to cut the grass for the season, you can go down in local history as a good guy. If thats any help.
Best of luck.
Howard. Isle of Skye.
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hello,your volvo uses nkg bcpr6es plugs and rc12yc plugs, they are the same plug your mower uses,
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Hi Joe,
How do you know they are the same plugs?
Marty
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i crossed ngk plugs with champion plugs for a 99 v70
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