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Klaus I think ur on to something 850

The mechanic took another compression test today.

The compression jump 100% up to 75 on all but one cylinder.

Could you possibly lead me to a post or explain in more detail what LM syndrome is . I tried to explain it to mechanic and asked him to followup with volvo.

Just like to understand it better. I sounds like if the car is left to sit for a while it will dry out and eventually start?

madness








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    Klaus I think ur on to something 850

    If your mechanic started the car, have him button up the valve cover. Then ask him to lower the oil pan and replace the worn out O rings in the oil pickup, so this doesn't happen again.
    Then go out and drive the car like you hate it! 2nd gear will let you get up to 70mph. I forgot the year, if it is 1995, you cannot put it into L until you are over 25mph to stay in 2nd gear. Under 25mph will invoke 1st gear and you don't want to rev it very hard in 1st.
    Don't let your son rev real high, he will forget how fast he is going and get nailed by a cop :)

    Klaus
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    The 164 has a new home, all I am left with are a 95 854T and a 98 V70R :)








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    Klaus I think ur on to something 850

    The LMS has almost nothing to do with a lawn mower. It has everything to do with the oil pressure and lifting the hydraulic lifters. The reason for LMS: One needs to get the lawn mower out of the garage, but it is stuck behind the 5 cylinder engine. So, start the car, back it up a foot, and turn the car off. Not enough time to build up oil pressure, so when the lifters settle, they are not where they are supposed to be. Zero compression on ALL cylinders!

    The only way to resolve this is to crank the bejeesus out of the engine, with the right foot mashing the gas peddle to the floor, until it finally coughs into life. The wide open throttle during crank actually tels the ECM to turn off the gas (flooded) so that the plugs don't get too wet.

    This high speed cranking, because of little to no compression, will build up oil pressure and the lifters will eventually assume the proper lift.

    I think your son had the car started for a nano second at the gas station and then it died. That would do it.

    Tell your mechanic to read this post, charge the battery, and crank the starter for a couple of minutes, non-stop.

    Klaus
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    The 164 has a new home, all I am left with are a 95 854T and a 98 V70R :)








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      Why it won't start - now I understand. great information! 850

      This is great information! Thank you for explaining it. This is exactly what my wife experienced a year or two ago several times when the car would not start until we cranked and cranked. I recommended she always run the car a minute or so, not START AND STOP, but I did not have a technical reason. The service guy at the Volvo dealer was not much help, either. As a counterpoint, my 1981 BMW won't do this because it has mechanical lifters...








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      I may have suffered LMS 850

      The other day I gave a quick turn to the key to my wife's '99 NA V70. It may have fired, but I let go before it started. When I tried again, it wouldn't start. It might fire, but wouldn't stay running. Finally, by trial and error, I held the pedal down while cranking it and it started. It ran rough for a few seconds, then settled down. I thought I had upset the brain waves by starting then shutting it down too quickly. I'll be more careful and start it WOT if it happens again.

      Thanks








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        I may have suffered LMS 850

        During cold start, one heck of a lot of gas gets injected into the cylinders. You just had it flooded from successive "cold" starts. The WOT while running the starter turns off fuel injection.
        You happened to do the right thing.

        Klaus
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        The 164 has a new home, all I am left with are a 95 854T and a 98 V70R :)








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          Thanks Klaus ===I may have suffered LMS 850

          Klaus,

          Thanks for all your support. I provided my first post to my mechanic and he said that this makes a lot of sense. He was amazed that after he let the car sit then took another compression it actually rose almost 100% of what it was prior.

          He even told me that at the end he probably will not even charge me for the work performed and his time. He just wants to get the car started.

          He is really a good guy as I had sat earlier. His sister works with my wife and he has been honorable in the past. Hard to find mechanics like him.

          I'll keep you posted

          Madness








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            Thanks Klaus ===I may have suffered LMS 850

            Read this article in Wikipedia :

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydraulic_lifters

            Especially the disadvantages part :)

            Klaus
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            The 164 has a new home, all I am left with are a 95 854T and a 98 V70R :)







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