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timing belt change at 70,000 or 105,000 S70

Hello. I have a 1999 Volvo S70 sedan. The volvo dealer said 1999 was a "split year", depending upon the vin and serial number off the timing belt cover, they can tell if i have an older timing belt and tensioner to be replaced at 70,000 miles or the newer version belt and tensioner designed to be replaced at 105,000 miles. Does anyone know anthing about this? also, if you do could you tell me what belt i have if i gave the timing belt cover serial number? I think it has to do with belts that went with hydraulic tensioners, and belts that went with mechanical tensioners. Any info would help. I now have 87,000 miles, and purchased the car used, with little or no service records, but if i can wait until 105K , that would be fine with me.

thanks, kenzoil








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    timing belt change at 70,000 or 105,000 S70

    Hello,

    While there is a split, it occured in the '98 model year, not on the '99 and newer 70 series. Most (if not all) of the '98's I have worked with have the newer style mechanical tensioner. As Rule said, they have the distributor ignition, mechanical throttle, etc. still, but have the newer tensioner. Any '99 should definitely have the mechanical type (in fact I would personally put money on it). This applies only to the 5 cylinder engines, as some of the S80's used the hydraulic tensioner into '99. In any case, I would probably do the belt soon if it were me (being almost ten years old). I did mine at 90K on my 2000 (last March). Never, under any cirsumstance, replace the belt without the tensioner with this type. These mechanical tensioners were problematic the first few years (not worth the risk of engine damage for a less than $100 part). Do the pulley with every belt change on that car. Anyway, I hope this helps. Let me know if you need anything else.

    Good luck,

    Joe S. - Volvo Master Technician

    2000 S70 AWD, 1995 850 Turbo, 1981 242 Turbo w/intercooler








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    timing belt change at 70,000 or 105,000 S70

    Timing chains with tensioners last the life of a car without any servicing so why did Volvo go with this, in my opinion, inferior timing belt design? Also why did Volvo hide the water pump behind the timing belt making it very difficult to change, again in my opinion an inferior design? I would suggest changing the water pump along with the timing belt as preventative maintenance.








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    timing belt change at 70,000 or 105,000 S70

    Klaus, is the engine number you talk about, located on the black timing belt cover listed as serial number? just want to make sure that is the engine number.
    Mine reads on the black plastic timing case, part # 6821667, and serial # 1528655. Thanks for any help.

    kenzoil








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    timing belt change at 70,000 or 105,000 S70

    Your dealer is correct. Timing Components up to Eng # 1266127 (models with Automatic Tensioner)are the old style and good for 70K miles. You could take the timeing belt cover off (one nut) and look at the tensioner. A black tube is the old style. Someone once told me that if the engine has coil over plugs, then it is the new style.

    Even if it is the new tensioner, I wouldn't trust it for the entire 105K miles. The early tensioners had longevity problems, since fixed.


    http://www.fcpgroton.com/CSV70/csv70timing.htm

    Klaus

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    The 164 has a new home, all I am left with are a 95 854T and a 98 V70R :)








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      timing belt change at 70,000 or 105,000 S70


      Seeing all this talk about timing belts- since my dad's '99 S70 has just turned 86k and will probably pass 90k sometime during the spring, would you be of the opinion that he get the belt and tensioner changed at that time? Would he need to change the water pump as well? This is a car that is meticulously maintained and not a service has ever been missed.








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        timing belt change at 70,000 or 105,000 S70

        If I had a 99, I would get the belt and tensioner replaced. Forget the water pump unless you replaced the antifreeze with some cheap stuff (which I doubt).
        Also a good time to replace the serpentine belt.

        Klaus
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        The 164 has a new home, all I am left with are a 95 854T and a 98 V70R :)








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      timing belt change at 70,000 or 105,000 S70

      While having the coil over plugs set up is a good indicator it is not written in stone by any means. I have at least two customers that have the old school cap, rotor, and wire set up and the later style tensioners. One of these guys had his belt changed so early that it was not known that there were problems with the early tensioners and his gave out around 130K, cost him a bundle. The engine code and visually verifying is the only way to makes sure.

      Mark








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        timing belt change at 70,000 or 105,000 S70

        +1 to that comment. I have a single coil and distributor but the new style mechanical tensioner in my '98 S70. Changed it out with the belt earlier at 195K Klm (c.f. 210K Klm)to be safe. Cheers, Phil
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        '98 N/A S70 196000 Klm







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