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BEWARE VENTVISOR SUNROOF WIND DEFLECTORS[ALL/1998] posted by Stoney on
Friday, 9 May 1997, at 10:59 a.m.

Attention all Volvonians! I just purchased and attempted to install a Ventvisor Sunroof Wind Deflector that was supposed to be "custom" designed by Ventvisor to fit the Volvo 240 series factory sunroof. The width of the standard sunroof is 36.5" but when you attempt to install the deflector it comes into contact with the inegral pop up vane and will not adrere to the roof properly. It came off after 10 min at 55mph. Luckily I was able to grab it before it flew off and when I called Ventvisor they couldn't care less.

I was told by J. Chang of Ventvisor that,

1) It is not a "custom" fit it's universal (Then hy advertise it as "custom" on th ebox and in ads?)

2) You have to bend or cut off the factory pop up blade

3) It's an American Product designed to fit AMERICAN cars ! I should go buy a Chevy!(Honest the fool said this!)

4) No we will not refund your money.

Well the seller,PEP BOYS, listened and refunded the purchase price and spent 15 min in parking lot examining the problem and agreed with me about the poor design and lack of actory Support.

Please be aware that the Ventvisor company only "custom" dsigns their side window deflectors and that they don't want any business from "difficult" cars.

I could go on but the stupidity and anti customer attitude displayed by EVERYONE at VENTVISOR made me ashamed thet they make their peoducts here and claim to have "superior American Craftsmenship" involved.

I recommend that you do business with this firm at your own peril! They don't want or need our business as they have plenty of "loyal AMERICAN car owners to sell to" - direct quote!

Sorry if I am soapboxing here but jerks like these just make me want to puke in an envelope and Fed Ex it to 'em!

If Ventvisor has any reply they may email me at their peril!


Re: BEWARE VENTVISOR SUNROOF WIND DEFLECTORS[ALL/1998] posted by Shatz on
Friday, 9 May 1997, at 2:33 p.m.

I'm not sure what you are referring to by "vane", but I assume it is the integrated wind deflector that pops up as you open the sun roof.

I installed a Volvo accessory wind deflector on my 86 240 GL and that vane also had to be taken off. It is not a big deal, but it too would have inerfered with the new wind deflector. There is no real point in haveing the pop-up one after installing the large one. For what it's worth...


Re: BEWARE VENTVISOR SUNROOF WIND DEFLECTORS[ALL/1998] posted by Stoney on
Friday, 9 May 1997, at 4:06 p.m.

Shatz, Is there any problem with leaking after removal of the factory deflector blade?

My main beef was that they had no info on installation and from what I can tell Ventvisor techs. have never tried to install their product on a Volvo!

I just ahve heard and experienced a lot of problems with sunroofs and when I bought my 90 240dl I wnt over the drains and hoses and such with a demented passion. The dealer, Mayer Volvo Larchmont NY, also agreed to cover any leaks and problems for 1 yr no questions.

Again I do apologize for soapboxing but the attiude of the company just burned me up.

Did you do the install yourself and could you email me instructions, roughly, on how to remove the factory blade without damage?

By the way how's the 960 running?


Re: BEWARE VENTVISOR SUNROOF WIND DEFLECTORS[ALL/1998] posted by Shatz on
Friday, 9 May 1997, at 5:46 p.m.

Stoney, Let me take a look at the wind deflector to help me remind me how it was done. It was about 9 years ago, so there are no directions left. My recollection is, however, the whole thing was pretty benign. I think I had to drill a couple of holes for the scress that hold the deflector in place. There is a rubber/vinyl gasket that extends around the bottom. I probably put a thin layer of silicone gasket sealer over it., but it doesn't matter if that seal is perfect, becasue when its raining, the sun roof is closed. In fact, it's better that it allows accumulated water from rain and washing to run under the delfector so it won't spill into the open sunroof.

As for the sun roof itself, the blade deflector was easily removed at its attachment points on either side. We have had no trouble with leaking, but have had to replace (now twice) the seals on the 240; they will simply wear or loosen eventually. I've not done those myself becaue of the adhesives involved, but probably not impossible. The only other thing is the manual crank that can get out sync and the sunroof fail to close completely. The gears will jump and wear over time and the crank gear will reach its stop before the roof is closed. Have to take off the crank gear and "reset" it by backing it off and remounting it so the sunroof will close before its reaches that stop. Eventuallly, you may want to replace that crank gear (cheap). Otherwise we have had no problems with the sunroof itself. I would imagine that the installed wind/sun deflector helps protect the sun roof from leaking, and the seals from being exposed to the sun, since it partiall covers it.

Which leads me to my concluding remark! The accessory deflector does cut your view of the wide open space that a fully exposed sun roof will give you. It does cut wind noise and blocks sun when partially open. but watch those rain drops that gather on the underside when opening the roof. they will land on you, of course!

By the way, how much did you pay for this deflector? I don't remember the volvo one being so expensive. Or is the design much more appealing, etc.?

p,s, The 960 is just great thanks! I'm really feel spoiled when I drive my wife's 240...


Re: BEWARE VENTVISOR SUNROOF WIND DEFLECTORS[ALL/1998] posted by Tony Zee on
Friday, 9 May 1997, at 7:42 p.m.

I had one of those things on a Honda Accord (it was the factory one) and after just one year I removed it and the paint underneath was scratched to the point there was a hint of rust.

Hope this helps in your decision.


Re: BEWARE VENTVISOR SUNROOF WIND DEFLECTORS[ALL/1998] posted by Stoney on
Friday, 9 May 1997, at 8:30 p.m.

Shatz & Tony Zee The new type uses the 3M tape to hol it on and that's why it pulled free. I will look into removing the inergral deflector blade.

I just get a bit paranoid about messing with a nonleaking, working just fine sunroof. Kinda like petting a Pit Bull.

The cost was $35. I would not have purchased it if it involved driling into the roof. This puppy is cherry and has never been abused, and KNOCK WOOD will stay that way. Anything I install or put on has to be removeable with out major surgery.

Tony I know about that paint problem from pulling aero kits off cars when doing body work. The HD 3m stuff will pull off skin if you let it! The Civilian stuff is tamer and I can see it eating paint.

I envy you guys, a 960 and a S70 ! Tax man be kind, I want one !

Also the main problem with the maker, Ventvisor, was human not material. They didn't do research and have a fix available. The customer in the field is the human beta test. (Does Bill Gates own this comapny too?)


Re: BEWARE VENTVISOR SUNROOF WIND DEFLECTORS[ALL/1998] posted by Henry T. Mui. on
Saturday, 10 May 1997, at 1:37 a.m.

Stoney, I was planning to add a sunvisor/wind-deflector to my 85' 760 but, after hearing the problem you had with this company, makes me wonder! I should stick with the Volvo aftermarket stuff! Unless I try to buy the sunroof/wind deflector from Ipd and save! But, the only thing that will hurt me is the higher shipping cost because it's oversized! So, in the end it works out to be the same cost if I were to purchase the unit from my Volvo parts dealer. I make sure when I purchase it from them when they have a parts special that would save me 15 to 20 % off the reg. price! I have a Volvo installed wind deflector on the 940 GLE 92' and they took off the vane. The reason I know this was the fact that they gave it back to me in a box. I didn't know what it was called at the time. So far no leaks. But, it's held in place by 2 screws and metal braces attached to the inner part of the sunroof and 3M onto the roof area!


Re: BEWARE VENTVISOR SUNROOF WIND DEFLECTORS[ALL/1998] posted by Stoney on
Saturday, 10 May 1997, at 12:30 p.m.

Henry, So this is OEM Volvo? And I gather that the screws are located in the sunroof track area not in the roof panel? Sounds cool! The aforementioned product was adhered only with the 3M tape and IF THEY HAD TOLD ME TO REMOVE THE BLADE, THIS WOULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED!

It's also my fault as well as I ASSUMED that they had designed it properly and I DID NOT FULLY FUTZ WITH IT AND DESCOVER THE PROBLEM!

BAD OWNER! BAD OWNER! MEA CULPA!

Whats the cost of the Volvo or IPD product, and is it better? The one I used was moulded plexi and seemed sof and easy to scratch. (Personal observation-not a detrimonious statement).Lawyers please go away, I got your email!


Re: BEWARE VENTVISOR SUNROOF WIND DEFLECTORS[ALL/1998] posted by Jim Nugent on
Saturday, 10 May 1997, at 7:45 p.m.

Hey Stoney-

I'm a lawyer, and if anyone gives you any s**t about stating your opinion, I'll defend ya for free! Keep 'em rolling, buddy!


Re: BEWARE VENTVISOR SUNROOF WIND DEFLECTORS[ALL/1998] posted by Henry T. Mui. on
Sunday, 11 May 1997, at 2:52 a.m.

Stony, The only reason I chose the Volvo sunroof wind deflector was the fact that when I first purchased the car they put it on for me no charge. But, I had to pay for the wind deflector. Besides, they gave me a warranty for 4 yrs. or 50,000 miles on the parts installed with the new car! I could not pass up a warranty like that! As for the cost I'll have to dig up my old bills and inform you. Yes! they ran a brace down into the roof! The brace, bolt & nut can be removed if you needed the unit removed. Then they had 3M all around the botton edges! By the way this was put onto the 940 92'. My 240 GL 84' has no sun roof! But, the 760 does and I was thinking of putting one on! As for the Ipd sunroof wind deflector, it does not have a brace. It's held in place by 3M. The only thing wrong with the wind deflector is if you park under a tree during Autum you tend to get a lot of leaves into the unit!




 


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