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Car Top Carrier for 850 Wagon[ALL/1998] posted by TB on
Thursday, 8 May 1997, at 8:52 a.m.

I am looking for a good quality car top carrier for my '97 850 GLT wagon. My car currently does not have Volvo dealer-installed Euro rails. Would people recommend these Euro-rails for use in conjunction with a car top carrier, or is the carrier best installed directly on the roof (I worry about damage to the paint)? Anyway, I'm looking for a solid versatile carrier that will allow me to carry luggage primarily, but also has the capability to carry other things as well (i.e., bicycles). Any recommendations or experiences (pro and con) people would care to relate would be much appreciated. Thanks!

-TB


Re: Car Top Carrier for 850 Wagon[ALL/1998] posted by Jarrod on
Thursday, 8 May 1997, at 9:14 a.m.

Well, THULE is Swedish (I'm fairly certain). So why not keep it Swede?

It's pricey stuff, but it looks good on a Volvo.

-jarrod


Re: Car Top Carrier for 850 Wagon[ALL/1998] posted by Theddy Cassaras on
Thursday, 8 May 1997, at 10:10 a.m.

You can get carriers directly fitted on the roof, but you will damage the rubber door fillisters in the long run as they are fitted in between the roof edge and the door. The best thing to do is to get what you call Euro rails and then fit the carrier to them. The rails are easy to put on, it's already prepared from factory to do the job all from outside.

Theddy


Re: Car Top Carrier for 850 Wagon[ALL/1998] posted by Nick Gidakos on
Thursday, 8 May 1997, at 12:54 p.m.

I thought the original racks supplied by Volvo would only carry a maximum suggested weight of 100 pounds. The Thule rack is rated I think something in the ballpark of 200 pounds. You are right the rubber sels get bent by the Thule rack, plus if you open the sunroof it makes a lot of noise (air). You need to buy the Thule spoiler (air deflector) at about 100 US dollars.

Nick

PS: I thought that getting a manual for commercial usage(taxi) made more sense for reliability purposes, I guess in city stop and go trafic an auto may feel better. Nick


Re: Car Top Carrier for 850 Wagon[ALL/1998] posted by Theddy Cassaras on
Thursday, 8 May 1997, at 4:20 p.m.

The 850 is approved for a roof load of 100 kilos (200 pounds). The trick is to get a rack which also can carry this weight. As to sunroof, anything on the roof will cause noice. The only thing you can do is to place the carrier as far back as possible, the further back the less noice. To do that you must have rails on the roof, in which case you can put the racks wherever you want. With the THULE or similar original racks, you have no choice but to fit them into the predesigned holes under the roof edges in the door opening top.

Theddy


Re: Car Top Carrier for 850 Wagon[ALL/1998] posted by Jim Darling on
Friday, 9 May 1997, at 9:56 a.m.

There were several factors that influenced my decision to put the Eurorail system on my 855. The first was how they are "permanently" attacted to the car, and allow me to install and remove the "load bars" without contacting the paint. Secondly, the Eurorails provide attachment positions which span the entire length of the roof. This allows the load bars to be positioned exactly where I need them to best support the variety of items I carry. I can place them directly under the wheels/forks of bicycles, or place them at opposite ends of the rails for carring 13 ft. long kayaks or 16 ft. lengths of lumber. The other roof racks available for the 850 are limited in that their maximum seperation is dictated by the roof-line and the door openings to be about 3 to 4 ft. I would not feel very comfortable with these long items on the top of my car at highway speeds, supported by rails seperated by only 4 ft. I think that the maximum seperation of the Eurorails is somewhere around 7 ft.

My only complaint with the system is that the load bars generate a fair amount of wind noise (a howl/whistle) when they are installed. I speculate that this is coming from the attachment hardward, and feel that the design of it could be improved to eliminate much of this noise.

Jim


Re: Car Top Carrier for 850 Wagon[ALL/1998] posted by TB on
Friday, 9 May 1997, at 12:18 p.m.

Thanks for the valuable insights. I am pretty convinced at this point that I am going to go with the Euro-rails. Were yours installed at time of purchase or sometime later? If you wouldn't mind telling me, I would be interested in the approximate price you paid for the Euro-rails (installed). One last question: Are the load bars you use Volvo or did you purchase them from a third party vendor? If they are Volvo, I would also again be interested in approximate cost. Thanks again! Your comments have been most helpful, along with several others I received!

-TB


Re: Car Top Carrier for 850 Wagon[ALL/1998] posted by Joshua Ostroff on
Friday, 9 May 1997, at 1:01 p.m.

To jump in here, I installed eurorails on my 850 wagon a month after I bought it 2 years ago. It took about an hour and the only special tool required is a torx screwdriver. You have to remove and cut the plastic seal that runs from the bottom corners of the windshield to the back of the roof, then replace the last 6-7 feet with the roof rail. It's an easy job, just take time and care with the sealants - and measure your cuts 3 times!

I bought the rails and load bars at a discount from a Volvo dealer in Houston TX, Nils Sefeldt, 800 468-0041, although I'm sure that Borton Volvo in MN and other dealers also discount the parts. Only the eurorails are a Volvo-only item - everything else (including locksets) is available from Thule dealers (maybe other load bars fit the rails? not sure.) I don't remember the exact cost, but a dealer will quote you today's price.

As you may know, Volvo accessories are warranted with the car when installed at purchase time by the dealer, otherwise for 12 months.

Good luck...

Josh


Re: Car Top Carrier for 850 Wagon[ALL/1998] posted by Jim Darling on
Friday, 9 May 1997, at 2:05 p.m.

I purchased both the Eurorails and load bars along with the car, and the dealer installed them without any additional charge. Each rail bolts to the car with three screws -- the only difficult part of the installation is that you must cut the plastic strip that runs along the roof where the rails attach. You want to be very careful where you place this cut -- I don't know how clear the installation instructions are for determining the position of this cut. I guess you could just cut it "a little long", install to test the fit, remove, cut some more off, and repeat as necessary.

I don't recall the exact price I paid for the Eurorails/load bars. It was less than list price, which I do remember - since I had gotten prices from several dealers. I think the list prices were like $450/$125 and I might have paid around $300/$100. Having had Thule racks on my previous car, I know that the discount price for standard rain-gutter mount racks is around $125-$150.

Unless you just purchased your car, and can talk the dealer into giving you the 4 yr/50k mi warrenty which you get on all accessories purchased with the car, I would consider calling some of the Volvo OEM part discount houses. You will likely get better prices that the dealer's parts department. You could also use their prices to bargan with your dealer, especially if you were not thinking of trying the installation yourself.

Good luck.

Jim


Re: Car Top Carrier for 960 Wagon[ALL/1998] posted by Shatz on
Friday, 9 May 1997, at 2:50 p.m.

I've followed the nice dscussion of the 850 roof rack options. I have been considering one for my 960. My old 80 240 had one that took a phenomenol amount of abuse, inlcuding stacking 2x10x12s on it.

I probably will never go to that extreme on the 960, but roof racks are very helpful in extending the amount you can haul.

Is the Eurorail system available for the 900 series or can it be adaptable? What are my options here?


Re: Car Top Carrier for 960 Wagon[ALL/1998] posted by carlos taboada on
Monday, 12 May 1997, at 10:25 p.m.

euro roof rails are standard equipment on the 965's If you own one that doesn't come with it , ask your dealership to order one for you ; yes, you can install one.


Re: Car Top Carrier for 960 Wagon[ALL/1998] posted by Shatz on
Tuesday, 13 May 1997, at 4:59 p.m.

Thanks for the info, although I don't think they were standard on the 92s. I've actually never seen a 965 with the Eurorail, alway the more standard roof rack. Can't say I've even seen any S90s or 1997s. I'll look into it the next time I'm at the dealer. Between that, a cargo barrier for the dogs and the ambient temperature guage, I have to set my priorities.


Re: Car Top Carrier for 960 Wagon[ALL/1998] posted by Theddy Cassaras on
Wednesday, 14 May 1997, at 5:09 a.m.

I checked with Volvo today about rails for the 965. I think the newer models are standard equipped with these. If you have not got them, you can install them but it is a tough job. The inner roof must be taken down, holes drilled, special fastenings fitted to the roof etc. The 900 is not prepared for rails like the 850/V70. I didn't ask for the cost of it, I was too afraid of getting a heart attack!

Theddy


Re: Car Top Carrier for 960 Wagon[ALL/1998] posted by Terry Bowerman on
Wednesday, 14 May 1997, at 7:30 p.m.

I have had a Yakima roof rack system for a couple of years for my '90 745. The rack is very easy to install and remove. It can be locked down. The Yakima system has components for things like ski holders, bike holders, baskets, hard containers etc. It is very well built. We have used it to travel on a 3 week camping trip to the east (we live in Idaho), a month trip to Wisconsin this year and a trip to California. We have never had any trouble with it.


Re: Car Top Carrier for 850 Wagon[ALL/1998] posted by Stoney on
Friday, 9 May 1997, at 3:21 p.m.

There is an excellent post re: this subject on alt.autos.volvo page. The gentleman has the eurorail system and can give feedback on its versatility switching from bikes to canoes to lumber. I would suggent you read the post and contact him about further feedback.

I asked several owners of 850's I saw today and the eurorail equipped folks were VERY happy and the Thule, etc. folks said yeah there ok but the door seals are costly to replace.




 


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