Volvo RWD 200 Forum

Hi all:

As I am due to get the NJ dyno smog test in July and having read Ken C's post a few months past I was happy that my NOX problematic '93 244 would be exempt from the test.

I just heard a report last night that NJ filed suit along with CA to have more comprehensive smog testing to that of CA and it was approved by the EPA yesterday 6/30.


Is this an attempt to get older cars off the road and will this mean that the dyno test is back for all cars even if they are older than 15 years?

I hope a BB member knows the answer as I hope I can avoid the dyno test as my last test 2 years back only passed NOX by 1ppm after a new CAT and O2 sensor.

Thanks for your updates.


Al

FWIW, We have the dyno test here in Northern California, and our '93 240 has passed pretty easily twice over the past three years. Our 240 wasn't originally certified to California emissions standards, and does run at the high end of the allowed NOx range, but has always passed.

Hello,

Just went through NJ inspection(Flemington)and they did not even have the dyno testing hooked up. Pre 95 cars get the high idle test only and the rest only get the OBDII checked. This was as late as June 28th so you should be good to go in July. I think the new regulations are for tightening emissions on new cars.


http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2009/06/epa_gives_nj_13_other_states_g.html

Mario
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82 242 DL-MPG

Hi Mario:

Thanks for the update. I was not sure of the 6/30 ruling if it applied to all registered vehicles or new cars. There is nothing on the DMV web site to confirm.

When you note pre '95 get the "high idle test" does that mean that the DMV still uses the exhaust sniffer and revs the engine in neutral-stationary park?

I wonder if a "no load" non dyno test is easier to pass than a Dyno "loaded" test?

Thanks for the update as I will tweak as best as I can by a complete tune up, filter changes, throttle body cleaning, oil/filt change, and check for vac leaks.

Hopefully, I will pass as noted I only sqeaked by and passed in July '07 by 1ppm NOX. All other readings were well within the limits. That is after a new CAT and O2 sensor.

Al

Hello,

If your car is in decent tune then it should be no problem. It is the old test where they bring the revs up to over 2500k. It only checks CO and HC content and NO NOX. I have 3 pre 95 cars all pass in the past year. In fact if your car is EFI it is very hard to fail. Good luck.

Mario
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82 242 DL-MPG

Before Texas required the ASM test, my '87 passed the 2-stage idle with flying colors.....and it didn't even have a cat. When I tried to pass my first ASM test, I failed NOX. Went to replace the cat and found the cat completely gutted. Not sure if that is a testament to the "cleanlyness" of Volvos or to the looseness of the requirements. '87s seem to be the most common to fail NOX on the ASM. With a reasonably well tuned car and a fairly new cat it is more than capable of passing the test. If you just have to pass a 2-stage idle test, I think you won't have any problems.

Charles
Houston, TX

It's amazing what you guys have to put up with in those states. I was just telling my uncle who lives in NJ, who almost failed an emissions test on his 1960 MGA... that i just passed my old 79 Cornbinder (Scout)through inspection. It would have failed about a dozen tests in NJ, nothing wrong with my truck, it has been heavily modified in both drivetrain & suspension. But in NC if the vehicle is 10 years or older, it gets the horn & Light test, (They don't even pop the hood) then you are good for another year for 12 buxs...LOL

My 740's tinted windows were subject to the light test, another 15 bucks or so. And I got popped for a license plate light that was out.

Ari

Last year in NC found out about the window tint test ($10), guess what, passenger side front window was too dark by 1%...FAIL! Three years ago, failed on a functioning license plate light that was missing a plastic lens... FAIL! One additional change starting this year in NC is that you have to have your inspection BEFORE you renew your registration, if you don't pass the test, you don't get plates!

All this is is another tax that pays the special interest groups that pushed the inspections in the first place, any guess who they are??? Yep, the automotive repair and service centers!

Don't worry about what the individual states are doing right now, pretty soon the federales will come up with their own test tax that will eliminate any car over five years old... I hope I'm wrong!

jorrell
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92 245 278K miles, IPD'd to the hilt, 06 XC70, 00 Eclipse custom Turbo setup...currently taking names and kicking reputations!

Can't help with NJ rules But NY has the Dyno for cars up to 25 years old.
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'75 Jeep CJ5 345Hp ChevyPwrd, two motorcycles, '85 Pickup: The '89 Volvo is the newest vehicle I own. it wasn't Volvos safety , it was Longevity that sold me http://home.no.net/ebrox/Tony's%20cars.htm

"NY has the Dyno for cars up to 25 years old" --just to clarify the point Tony--that's -- up to and including 25 years old" -- as I recently found when inspecting my '84 245. Oh well, next year a $10 safety check and that's it. I found it interesting that in NC cars too old to have OBDII get a safety only. For the NJ poster--I'd suggest going to the NJ State DMV website for the most accurate information.--Dave

Yupper... They still get tested on the 25 year..it's the 26th year we are good.

One more year for my Pickup truck.

Did you ever dig up Both Sway bars?
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'75 Jeep CJ5 345Hp ChevyPwrd, two motorcycles, '85 Pickup: The '89 Volvo is the newest vehicle I own. it wasn't Volvos safety , it was Longevity that sold me http://home.no.net/ebrox/Tony's%20cars.htm

Tony, I'm on the road for the next week and a half--doing a valve job and rings on the Volvo From Heck at my son's shop in NC and then will do photos and hope to Time Trial the car at the New Jersey Motorsports Park with Eastern Motor Racing Association. Get in touch week after next. If any of you Brickboarders out there would like to spend a day at the race track we always can use volunteers--go to--- emraracing.org --- OR -- get yourself out on the track for not much money. Time Trial requires only normal production belts--helmets must be 2000 spec--loaners are available--instructors are assigned to beginners. -- Dave

cal exempts cars built in 1974 and older. it started with 25 year old exemption but froze that in 2000.so 34 year old and older exempted