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READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Tricky blown fuse... 200 posted by  GlenP on  Fri Apr 3 13:58 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Fri Nov 20 17:25 CST 2009 [RELATED] Number four son's 240 wouldn’t start earlier this week. The car turned over fine. Like all good brickster's, I checked the fuses before doing anything substantial. None of the conductors were melted. I then sprayed some starting fluid into the throttle body hose. The car caught, but wouldn't keep running. Disconnecting the AMM didn't change anything. The spark plugs were dry as a bone. I was now convinced that the problem was probable the main fuel pump. On a whim, I decided I would rotate the fuses before attempting anything more drastic. While working my down the stack, I notice that one seemed ever-so-slightly misaligned. It just happened to be the fuel pump fuse. I pulled it, and noticed that while the conductor was perfect, the plastic fuse body was slightly melted. The plastic ran down via capillary action between the conductor and holder terminals. Apparently, the fuse was forced very slightly out of the holder during an earlier anti-corrosion rotation. The reduced contact area increased the electrical resistance, which generated enough heat to resistance was enough to soften the plastic body. The moral of the story is to look at more than the fuse conductor when checking fuses. If a fuse seems slightly misaligned, even if it rotates and as a perfect conductor, pull, inspect, and clean it before moving on to a more time-consuming diagnostic step. Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/RWD/volvo/1341668/220/240/260/280/tricky_blown_fuse.html">Tricky blown fuse...</a>

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  READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Tricky blown fuse... 200 posted by  Ryan_R on  Fri Apr 3 22:07 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Fri Nov 20 15:24 CST 2009 [RELATED] Every five years or so, it's worth chucking all of the old fuses, hosing down the fuse box with contact cleaner, wire brush shiny and clean, then replace with all new fuses, each with a dab of dielectric grease on each end. Clean fuses make life really easy. :-) -Ryan -- Athens, Ohio 1987 245 DL 314k, Dog-mobile 1990 245 DL 134k M47, E-codes, GT Sway Bars, GT Braces 1991 745 GL 300k, Regina, 23/21mm Turbo Sway Bars Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/RWD/volvo/1341756/220/240/260/280/tricky_blown_fuse.html">Tricky blown fuse...</a>

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    READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Tricky blown fuse... 200 posted by  GlenP on  Tue Apr 7 10:03 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Fri Nov 20 17:25 CST 2009 [RELATED] Ryan - You set a standard for preventative maintenance I can only dream about! Glen Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/RWD/volvo/1342358/220/240/260/280/tricky_blown_fuse.html">Tricky blown fuse...</a>

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  READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  What number fuse and what year 240? (NMI) 200 posted by  lucid on  Fri Apr 3 15:35 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 12:46 CST 2009 [RELATED] Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/RWD/volvo/1341687/220/240/260/280/number_fuse_year_240_nmi.html">What number fuse and what year 240? (NMI)</a>

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    READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  What number fuse and what year 240? (NMI) 200 posted by  GlenP on  Fri Apr 3 16:43 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Fri Nov 20 17:25 CST 2009 [RELATED] It was an '89 244. Fues 6 or something like that. GP Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/RWD/volvo/1341700/220/240/260/280/number_fuse_year_240_nmi.html">What number fuse and what year 240? (NMI)</a>

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      READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  What number fuse and what year 240? (NMI) 200 posted by  GlenP on  Tue Apr 7 10:07 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Fri Nov 20 17:25 CST 2009 [RELATED] Make that a '91 244. As Art and Bruce pointed out, fuse 6 in '89s does nothing. I was just checking to see if everybody was paying attention ;-) Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/RWD/volvo/1342359/220/240/260/280/number_fuse_year_240_nmi.html">What number fuse and what year 240? (NMI)</a>

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      READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Coincidence? 200 1989 posted by  Art Benstein on  Fri Apr 3 17:49 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 13:13 CST 2009 [RELATED] Not to rain on your findings, but your 89 240 will run around town just peachy without any fuses in the panel inside, as long as the fuel tank is fairly full. Of course you might get a ticket for no brake lights or turn signals. #6 isn't even in use. Haven't seen you around in a while... glad you're still a brickster! -- Art Benstein near Baltimore Never test the depth of the water with both feet. Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/RWD/volvo/1341717/220/240/260/280/number_fuse_year_240_nmi.html">Coincidence?</a>

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  READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Tricky blown fuse... 200 posted by  pageda on  Fri Apr 3 14:14 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 22:21 CST 2009 [RELATED] I would also add to use only ceramic fuses, they don't melt. Dan Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/RWD/volvo/1341673/220/240/260/280/tricky_blown_fuse.html">Tricky blown fuse...</a>

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    READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Tricky blown fuse... 200 posted by  GlenP on  Fri Apr 3 16:49 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Fri Nov 20 17:25 CST 2009 [RELATED] Dan - Now that's an excellent suggestion. I've gotten in the habit of taking fuses from my parts cars, buffing the ends with mild steel wool, and reusing them without paying much attention to the body. Probably false economy. The fuel red fuel pump fuse carries a lot of current (25 A rating?), so a marginal connection made it prone for melting. The thing that really amazed me was how completely and smoothly the plastic flowed over the tip. Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/RWD/volvo/1341701/220/240/260/280/tricky_blown_fuse.html">Tricky blown fuse...</a>

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      READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  I'm still conFUSED... 200 1989 posted by  lucid on  Sat Apr 4 06:04 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 12:46 CST 2009 [RELATED] "The fuel red fuel pump fuse carries a lot of current (25 A rating?), so a marginal connection made it prone for melting." Hi Glen, I'm still in the dark about exactly what fuse you fixed. As Art Benstein noted above, the "red fuel pump fuse" (16 amp) in the '89 fuse panel is not wired to anything (on U.S. 240s), and the car will run with it completely removed. In effect it's just a spare fuse until the '91 model, where it becomes active and replaces the underhood 25 Amp blade fuse. -- Bruce Young, '93 940-NA (current), 240s (one V8), 140s, 122s, since '63. Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/RWD/volvo/1341782/220/240/260/280/im_still_confused.html">I'm still conFUSED...</a>

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        READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  I'm still conFUSED... 200 1989 posted by  moneypitbrick on  Wed Apr 8 13:12 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sun Sep 13 19:08 CST 2009 [RELATED] Speaking of this issue...my 242 is running a 16 a fuse for the fuel pump rather than a 25. Does it make a difference? Obviously my car is starting and running and not shutting off, so if it does make a difference, wherein does it lie? Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/RWD/volvo/1342650/220/240/260/280/im_still_confused.html">I'm still conFUSED...</a>

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        READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  I'm still conFUSED... 200 1989 posted by  GlenP on  Tue Apr 7 10:01 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Fri Nov 20 17:25 CST 2009 [RELATED] Bruce, We have a brick of just about every vintage. This one happens to be a '91. I drive the '89... Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/RWD/volvo/1342357/220/240/260/280/im_still_confused.html">I'm still conFUSED...</a>

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      READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Tricky blown fuse... 200 posted by  pageda on  Fri Apr 3 17:18 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 22:21 CST 2009 [RELATED] Disconnect the battery and remove the fuses. Then using a brass brush clean the contacts on the fuse box, slightly squeeze the contacts of each fuse to make sure it holds the fuse firmly. The fuel pumps draw a good bit of current stay away from plastic keep it clean with good contact. Dan Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/RWD/volvo/1341712/220/240/260/280/tricky_blown_fuse.html">Tricky blown fuse...</a>

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      READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Only use boss fuses metal and glass very reliable in fact no problems since I started using them yrs ago 200 posted by  someone claiming to be joekidd on  Fri Apr 3 17:05 CST 2009 [RELATED] Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/RWD/volvo/1341709/220/240/260/280/use_boss_fuses_metal_glass_reliable_fact_problems_since_started_using_yrs_ago.html">Only use boss fuses metal and glass very reliable in fact no problems since I started using them yrs ago</a>

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        READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Only use boss fuses metal and glass very reliable in fact no problems since I started using them yrs ago 200 posted by  someone claiming to be Berlis on  Fri Apr 3 20:30 CST 2009 [RELATED] Several years ago while on a family trip, our '83 245 GLT suddenly stopped in the evening along I95 just south of DC. I inspected all fuses, rotated them, cleaned fuse contacts and still couldn't get it re-started. Had it towed to a Volvo-oriented shop. The next morning the car was ready to go. Just a fuse (fuel pump I believe), a fuse with glass and metal end caps. Seemed visual inspection wouldn't have found the failure point. The fuse failed up under one of the metal end caps, out of view. I should have been more persistent and put critical thought into the car failure and then I would have replaced possible suspect fuses. But, they all looked good to me. Mike Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/RWD/volvo/1341746/220/240/260/280/use_boss_fuses_metal_glass_reliable_fact_problems_since_started_using_yrs_ago.html">Only use boss fuses metal and glass very reliable in fact no problems since I started using them yrs ago</a>

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          READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Only use boss fuses metal and glass very reliable in fact no problems since I started using them yrs ago 200 posted by  Sven's Maintainer on  Sat May 2 19:44 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 16:19 CST 2009 [RELATED] Yes - a tester is a good thing to have and use. Would have found your bad fuse. A multitester would do this job, or a simple continuity tester would also do it. If you aren't familiar with these, or if electrical theory gave you nightmares, start by recognizing that these two tools aren't up there with rocket science. If you can navigate this message board you can learn to use those testers. Far better than swapping around fuses or sometimes bulbs or flashlight batteries in an attempt to figure out which one is bad. -- Sven: '89 245 NA, 951 ECU, expanded air dam, forward belly pan reaches oem belly pan, airbox heater upgraded, E-fan, 205/65-15 at 50 psi, IPD sways, no a/c-p/s belt, E-Codes, amber front corner reflectors, aero front face, quad horns, tach, small clock. Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/RWD/volvo/1347080/220/240/260/280/use_boss_fuses_metal_glass_reliable_fact_problems_since_started_using_yrs_ago.html">Only use boss fuses metal and glass very reliable in fact no problems since I started using them yrs ago</a>

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