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READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Iran Votes posted by  B20Paul. on  Thu Jun 11 07:21 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 13:12 CST 2009 [RELATED] Ahmadinejad is hopefully going to be tossed out. The majority is against him & the young have always been pro-America. Obama's speech was rather helpful too. Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1353550/iran_votes.html">Iran Votes</a>

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  READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Iran Votes posted by  gopeshs on  Tue Jun 23 20:46 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Wed Nov 18 19:10 CST 2009 [RELATED] May be, but look at the brutaliy, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfrfEtW2aT4 -- DD-1990 240 DL SW M47II FI 3.1 234 K miles Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1356205/iran_votes.html">Iran Votes</a>

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  READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Food for thought.... posted by  03V-70awd on  Tue Jun 23 13:05 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 19:15 CST 2009 [RELATED] Could we learn the Mr. Members Only Jacket was really the lesser of two evils? Please take a look at the article linked above, which is excerpted below. It was written by Ed Morrissey. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2277623/posts Mousavi behind the attack on Marines in Lebanon? Did Mirhossein Mousavi play a leading role in the 1983 attack in Lebanon that killed more than 240 US Marines and caused Ronald Reagan to retreat? CQ Politics says yes, calling Mousavi the “Butcher of Beirut”. It serves as a reminder that the man whom the mullahs have suppressed was and perhaps still is of their regime: "He may yet turn out to be the avatar of Iranian democracy, but three decades ago Mir-Hossein Mousavi was waging a terrorist war on the United States that included bloody attacks on the U.S. embassy and Marine Corps barracks in Beirut. Mousavi, prime minister for most of the 1980s, personally selected his point man for the Beirut terror campaign, Ali Akbar Mohtashemi-pur, and dispatched him to Damascus as Iran’s ambassador, according to former CIA and military officials. The ambassador in turn hosted several meetings of the cell that would carry out the Beirut attacks, which were overheard by the National Security Agency." The connection to the attack is direct, according to the man in charge of American operations in the Mediterranean at the time: “We had a tap on the Iranian ambassador to Lebanon,” retired Navy Admiral James “Ace” Lyons related by telephone Monday. In 1983 Lyons was deputy chief of Naval Operations, and deeply involved in the events in Lebanon. “The Iranian ambassador received instructions from the foreign minister to have various groups target U.S. personnel in Lebanon, but in particular to carry out a ’spectacular action’ against the Marines,” said Lyons. Mousavi and his allies, perhaps cognizant that this history would surface eventually, tried applying a little proactive balm on his reputation earlier this week. In a Guardian article defending himself against criticisms that there were few differences between himself and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Mousavi’s spokesman Mohsen Makhmalbaf said that Mousavi previously “knew only Che Guevara,” but now “he knows Gandhi.” It does confirm that the government of Iran has waged war by proxy against the United States as well as Israel for three decades, and that Mousavi participated in that war. Bear in mind he is also considered an architect of the Iranian nuke program as well. Perhaps if Mahmoud survives he will in fact be more moderate at least no more radical than his opponent. -- Just bought a 03 V70 T5 AWD. It is my second Volvo. My 1995 960 had over 250K on it when I sold it. I hope this one lasts that long too. Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1356102/food_thought.html">Food for thought....</a>

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    READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Food for thought.... posted by  Sil on  Tue Jun 23 14:49 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 19:25 CST 2009 [RELATED] All the more reason for Obama to maintain his position of "We have no dog in this fight." I don't either, except that I like the idea of the younger generation sending a message to the older one that they need to make a few changes toward liberalization. Will the Mullah's get the message? Who knows. As for Mousavi's participation in the attack on the Marines in Lebanon, maybe that got canceled out by his helping Reagan with the freeing of the hostages, and the timing thereof, and playing ball with him in the Iran-Contra affair. But no, as far as the US is concerned, Mousavi instead of Ahmadinejad as president would have made very little difference, except that it might have softened the tone of the rhetoric a bit. Mousavi might have made some improvements in the internal conditions in Iran, particularly the economic ones which Ahmadinejad has screwed up badly, but if you think his election would have resulted in a liberal, democratic regime, friendly toward the US, forget it. I certainly don't believe that was what the demonstrations were about. Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1356130/food_thought.html">Food for thought....</a>

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      READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Food for thought.... posted by  mike t on  Tue Jun 23 21:01 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 21:46 CST 2009 [RELATED] Bob "All the more reason for Obama to maintain his position of "We have no dog in this fight."" Indeed!!!! This presidential fight might bring the whole theocracy down too! Note that the clerics are beginning to choose sides. The suppressed opposition by the modernists and secular elements has been constrained a very long time. The hardliners are only stoking the fires of change by their harsh and oppressive tactics. For my money, Mousavi is just more of the same. I'm not convinced that, in the end, the people of Iran may just get a little grit in their gizzards and take back their country!! If, for a change, we stand by our national values of freedom and keep our nose out, change may be nurtured. I think the president is taking a pragmatic and non reactionary path. Nice change!! If our rhetoric remains as it is going... unshaded moral support for human rights, The freedom loving people of Iran may respond in a positive way. there can be a place for friendship between the peoples of the US and IRAN. I'm thinking of Robert Frost and "The Road Not Taken" Two roads diverged in a wood, and I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference. I still consider the jury out on the President... I'm willing to give him more leeway. It's early in the first inning!! mike -- 64 220 (RIP, now he's parts on the hoof) - 65 220 - 68 220 (almost ready for the road), and a 66 130 (35k miles last year) Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1356208/food_thought.html">Food for thought....</a>

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        READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Food for thought.... posted by  Snootfull on  Wed Jun 24 10:10 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 22:09 CST 2009 [RELATED] If running the presidential mouth hole had any positive effect then Bush would have had the world all cleaned up before he left office. Unfortunately, in the real world, seldom does anything beneficial or constructive come from simply being an obnoxious loudmouth. This particular issue, it seems, has really separated the conservative wheat from the neocon chaff; true Conservatives have generally supported the common sense, conservative approach taken by Obama they understand the U.S. role in Iranian history and that no good can come from bellicose rhetoric in this situation. They understand that “Bush speak” (tough sounding but ultimately empty noise) could only hurt and prevent us from realizing what we desire in Iran. Knee-jerk neocons on the other hand have been advocating the same wrong-headed shit that is the hallmark of failure of the Bush years, the very thing that got them kicked out of power last November. I hope that the gulf between Conservatives and neocons continues to widen and that the Republican Party gets back to its roots because there really needs to be sane opposition in D.C. to help keep things from getting too weird. -- "The long memory is the most radical idea in America.'- Utah Phillips Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1356303/food_thought.html">Food for thought....</a>

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          READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Snoot's food gives me indigestion...... posted by  03V-70awd on  Wed Jun 24 16:55 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 19:15 CST 2009 [RELATED] If running the presidential mouth hole had any positive effect then Bush would have had the world all cleaned up before he left office. Another genius level observation. If mensa ever knocks on your door my guess is they need directions. If Clinton's model were followed we would have blown up an aspirin factory, and resumed chasing some college girl around the oral office. If we used Jimmy Carter's response we would have just crashed some helicopters in the desert and left the mess for Iranians to clean up. Boy he really showed them. They understand that “Bush speak” (tough sounding but ultimately empty noise) could only hurt and prevent us from realizing what we desire in Iran. And what will Obama's calm, say nothing, do nothing policy accomplish to help anyone? How many girls need to die on youtube before he can raise his eyebrows while talking? Snoot, diplomacy has never stopped a despot. The cold steel of the bayonet always points in the direction of meaningful conflict resolution. You don't get that. Obama doesn't seem to get it. He still says he will sit down with this regime after they finish hosing the blood from the streets. You both need a lesson in solving this type of problem. Do you know what Bush and Reagan did that neither Carter or Clinton did? They freed millions of people from the yoke of tyranny. -- The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them.' Albert Einstein Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1356415/snoots_food_gives_indigestion.html">Snoot's food gives me indigestion......</a>

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            READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Snoot's food gives me indigestion...... posted by  Snootfull on  Fri Jun 26 15:44 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 22:09 CST 2009 [RELATED] "And what will Obama's calm, say nothing, do nothing policy accomplish to help anyone?"- That is make believe, it is only in that way in your head. In the real world he did say stuff but he didn't act the ass and make empty threats like our former president. "Do nothing"? What is there to do? The only thing that could possibly be done to a country with which we have no formal relations is a military invasion and we are too weak to pull that one off thanks to guess who? You got it, say it with me now...that spoon-fed, douche bag, ne'er do well, piece of shit Bush! The only thing that could possibly be accomplished was to avoid undermining the Iranian people in the street by shooting off his mouth and that is what he did. "diplomacy has never stopped a despot" -I don't need a lecture on diplomacy from you as I never advocated diplomacy as a means to addressing this situation, you may not be aware of this but we don't actually have diplomatic relations with Iran. "The cold steel of the bayonet always points in the direction of meaningful conflict resolution"- So? What are you saying? You want to invade Iran? How you gonna pull that one off? You Neocon jackasses don't know how to quit while you're behind do you? Need to get bogged down in yet another sand box before your happy do you? I don't suppose you want a tax hike to pay for it though, huh? "He still says he will sit down with this regime after they finish hosing the blood from the streets" - Our streets or theirs? You should bone up on U.S. history. Might I suggest Kent State, the Haymarket riots and the Bonus Marches as a good place to start? There is a long tradition of cops, private security forces and National Guard murdering unarmed U.S. citizens in the streets on behalf of big business and government, you should check it out. You advocate torturing people that disagree with you don't you? You see the ruling Mullahs are just the Iranian version of you (Neocons that is) so really their actions shouldn't bother you that much, you advocate force remember? Different sides of the same coin is all we're talking about; you are right, everyone else is wrong and anything that you can do to further your cause is perfectly acceptable because your cause is just. They see themselves in EXACTLY the same way you Neocons see yourselves so what's the problem? I already addressed your Bush/Reagan John Wayne-esk masturbatory fantasies so I won't bother with that again. -- "The long memory is the most radical idea in America."- Utah Phillips Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1356823/snoots_food_gives_indigestion.html">Snoot's food gives me indigestion......</a>

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              READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Snoot's food gives me indigestion...... posted by  T.Lyttle on  Fri Jun 26 19:33 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 20:39 CST 2009 [RELATED] Wow... Not much to add to that! Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1356858/snoots_food_gives_indigestion.html">Snoot's food gives me indigestion......</a>

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              READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Not bad, not bad at all. NMI posted by  Sil on  Fri Jun 26 18:51 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 19:25 CST 2009 [RELATED] Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1356846/bad_nmi.html">Not bad, not bad at all. NMI</a>

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            READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Officer Plod is taking drugs from the evidence locker.... posted by  B20Paul. on  Thu Jun 25 12:32 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 13:12 CST 2009 [RELATED] Officer Plod is taking drugs from the evidence locker....again. Don't smoke all the crack, leave some for somebody else. Do you know what Bush and Reagan did.....They freed millions of people from the yoke of tyranny. On the 24th of June, another 69 people were 'freed from the yoke of tyranny', they died in a bomb blast in Sadr City & 150 others were just injured.(Some will likely be freed from tyranny later.) 90% of people that have received the Bush/Reagan version of freedom would prefer that the U.S. would piss off. Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1356561/officer_plod_taking_drugs_evidence_locker.html">Officer Plod is taking drugs from the evidence locker....</a>

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              READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Still waiting for your source of the bullshit stat.... posted by  03V-70awd on  Thu Jun 25 15:35 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 19:15 CST 2009 [RELATED] 90% of people that have received the Bush/Reagan version of freedom would prefer that the U.S. would piss off. Well, aol.com? Daily Kos? Enthrall us with your superior sources please..... -- “Things in life will not always run smoothly. Sometimes we will be rising towards the heights, and then all will seem to reverse itself and start downward. The great fact to remember is that the trend of civilization is forever upward.” Dr. Endicott Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1356614/still_waiting_source_bullshit_stat.html">Still waiting for your source of the bullshit stat....</a>

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                READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Still waiting for your source of the bullshit stat.... posted by  B20Paul. on  Thu Jun 25 16:46 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 13:12 CST 2009 [RELATED] I said: YOU FIRST, YOU SAID THEY FREED MILLIONS FROM TYRANNY, WHO DID REAGAN FREE? YOU DIDN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION YET, YOU ONLY GAVE US YOUR WORTHLESS OPINION. Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1356631/still_waiting_source_bullshit_stat.html">Still waiting for your source of the bullshit stat....</a>

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                READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Still waiting for your source of the bullshit stat.... posted by  Snootfull on  Thu Jun 25 15:57 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 22:09 CST 2009 [RELATED] Why would you wait for a source on a bullshit stat? Wouldn't that be an obvious waste of time and a rather stupid thing to do? While your waiting you could go back and answer some of the many "chirp, chirp, chirp" threads you've skipped out on if you need something to do. -- "The long memory is the most radical idea in America."- Utah Phillips Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1356621/still_waiting_source_bullshit_stat.html">Still waiting for your source of the bullshit stat....</a>

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                  READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Why would you wait for a source on a bullshit stat? Wouldn't that be an obvious waste of time and a rather stupid thing to do? posted by  B20Paul. on  Thu Jun 25 16:37 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 13:12 CST 2009 [RELATED] Why would you wait for a source on a bullshit stat? Wouldn't that be an obvious waste of time and a rather stupid thing to do? Because it's exactly the type of hard hitting stuff he gets on Faux News. Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1356629/wait_source_bullshit_stat_wouldnt_obvious_waste_time_rather_stupid_thing.html">Why would you wait for a source on a bullshit stat? Wouldn't that be an obvious waste of time and a rather stupid thing to do?</a>

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                    READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  More Bullshit from Paul 90% of those Iraqis who got freedom from Bush want to see Hillary in a burqa NMI posted by  03V-70awd on  Thu Jun 25 16:54 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 19:15 CST 2009 [RELATED] Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1356635/bullshit_paul_90_iraqis_got_freedom_bush_want_see_hillary_burqa_nmi.html">More Bullshit from Paul 90% of those Iraqis who got freedom from Bush want to see Hillary in a burqa NMI</a>

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                      READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Wow, that was cutting stuff, a 'lets pick on Hillary'. posted by  B20Paul. on  Thu Jun 25 17:00 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 13:12 CST 2009 [RELATED] More Bullshit from Paul 90% of those Iraqis who got freedom from Bush want to see Hillary in a burqa Wow, that was cutting stuff, a 'lets pick on Hillary'. I can see why you prefer your women like Sarah Palin, i.e., dumb as dirt. A women with a brain like Hillary's must be seriously scary to you. Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1356638/wow_cutting_stuff_lets_pick_hillary.html">Wow, that was cutting stuff, a 'lets pick on Hillary'. </a>

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              READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Paul's been watching Keith Olbermann again... posted by  03V-70awd on  Thu Jun 25 12:39 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 19:15 CST 2009 [RELATED] "90% of people that have received the Bush/Reagan version of freedom would prefer that the U.S. would piss off. Was that a People magazine poll that you quoted? Perhaps you can cite your reference. -- Just bought a 03 V70 T5 AWD. It is my second Volvo. My 1995 960 had over 250K on it when I sold it. I hope this one lasts that long too. Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1356565/officer_plod_taking_drugs_evidence_locker.html">Paul's been watching Keith Olbermann again...</a>

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                READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Officer Crack Smoker, who the hell is Keith Olbermann? posted by  B20Paul. on  Thu Jun 25 12:45 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 13:12 CST 2009 [RELATED] Perhaps you can cite your reference. You first. You said they freed millions from tyranny, who did Reagan free? Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1356567/officer_crack_smoker_hell_keith_olbermann.html">Officer Crack Smoker, who the hell is Keith Olbermann?</a>

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                  READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Keith Olbermann is your God.... posted by  03V-70awd on  Thu Jun 25 12:54 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 19:15 CST 2009 [RELATED] The E. Germans. Reunification would not have happened if he blinked at Reykjavik. -- Just bought a 03 V70 T5 AWD. It is my second Volvo. My 1995 960 had over 250K on it when I sold it. I hope this one lasts that long too. Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1356572/officer_crack_smoker_hell_keith_olbermann.html"> Keith Olbermann is your God....</a>

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                    READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Keith Olbermann is your God.... posted by  JSBB on  Sun Jun 28 11:44 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 20:36 CST 2009 [RELATED] He did a great job in Lebanon too huh? What a message to send so long ago: blow shit up and the Americans pack up and flee. -- The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. -Bertrand Russell Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1357041/keith_olbermann_god.html">Keith Olbermann is your God....</a>

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                    READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Keith Olbermann is your God.... posted by  Sil on  Thu Jun 25 16:19 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 19:25 CST 2009 [RELATED] The E. Germans. Reunification would not have happened if he blinked at Reykjavik. No kidding? And here I thought all this time that the Reykjavik summit was about arms control and bickering about about INFs, ICBMs and the SDI. You're right though, Reagan didn't blink, but his handlers sent him off to go take his nap when they noticed that Gorbachev was out-negotiating him. They were afraid he'd bargain away their SDI pipe-dream and reveal it as mostly a bluff. Reagan did attempt the traditional posturing about human rights and the emigration of Soviet Jews to Israel, mostly for home consumption, and Gorbachev, just as traditional in that respect, refused to go there. East and Central European rebellion against Soviet domination and German unification, as far as I know, was never discussed. Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1356624/keith_olbermann_god.html">Keith Olbermann is your God....</a>

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                      READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Keith Olbermann is your God.... posted by  03V-70awd on  Thu Jun 25 16:49 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 19:15 CST 2009 [RELATED] It wasn't that they discussed Germany, it was the point that Gorbie left the conference thinking he was going to have spend more on defense. You see we won by making them spend on defense. They spent like Obama trying to stimulate the economy trying to keep up. Of course it was their downfall. Once again Reagan did this against the wishes of the left in our country. The Dems have a great record really. Wrong on Vietnam. Wrong on the cold war. Wrong on Iraq {General Betray-us), and now in charge of foreign policy. Scary actually. -- The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them.' Albert Einstein Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1356634/keith_olbermann_god.html">Keith Olbermann is your God....</a>

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                        READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Keith Olbermann is your God.... posted by  Sil on  Sun Jun 28 09:21 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 19:25 CST 2009 [RELATED] No doubt competing with the US in defense spending sped up the demise of the USSR, and their suspicion that the SDI could be for real may have increased Gorbachev's interest in negotiating an arms deal. Whether outspending the Soviets militarily was actually a deliberate strategy of the Reagan administration, or just the result of collusion between the CIA and the "military industrial complex", is still a subject for debate. The former, either deliberately or through incompetence, provided grossly exaggerated reports on Soviet military capability, and the latter certainly thrived on the arms race expenditures. My take is that the USSR would have collapsed anyway under the burden of its thoroughly discredited ideology and political system, bureaucratic incompetence, corruption, inefficient centrally planned and controlled economy, and international over-extension. There are some lessons for us in that, but it's particularly the last item that we should heed. There were two major nails in the USSR's coffin. One was Brezhnev's Afghanistan adventure which Andropov inherited and Gorbachev brought to a close through withdrawal. The US definitely deserves credit for contributing to the Soviets' failure in Afghanistan by supplying funds and arms (especially Stinger missiles) to the Mujahideen, although Iran, Turkey, Afghanistan, and especially Saudi Arabia played significant, frequently ignored, roles. The other was Saudi Arabia's using its power within OPEC to keep oil prices down. This benefited the Western economies and further undermined the already weak USSR economy by severely reducing the value of its major export product, oil. Whether the Saudis did so out of religious and strategic anti-communist convictions, or because Ronald Reagan persuaded them to do so can be endlessly speculated upon. If any American politician deserves a piece of the credit, I suspect it might be G.H.W.Bush. Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1357024/keith_olbermann_god.html">Keith Olbermann is your God....</a>

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                          READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Keith Olbermann is your God.... posted by  JSBB on  Sun Jun 28 11:43 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 20:36 CST 2009 [RELATED] > Whether outspending the Soviets militarily was actually a deliberate strategy of the Reagan administration, or just the result of collusion between the CIA and the "military industrial complex", is still a subject for debate. A collapse in oil prices seems to have had the most impact. They failed because they bet everything on the wrong horse. Of course that's why we have failed as well. -- The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. -Bertrand Russell Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1357040/keith_olbermann_god.html">Keith Olbermann is your God....</a>

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                        READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  I have no God. posted by  B20Paul. on  Thu Jun 25 17:06 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 13:12 CST 2009 [RELATED] The Dems have a great record really. When faced with actually info that Reagan did SFA to bring the wall down, you have a swing at the Dems. No surprise really, it's copy book Faux News logic. Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1356641/god.html">I have no God.</a>

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                          READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  I have no God. posted by  Snootfull on  Fri Jun 26 15:10 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 22:09 CST 2009 [RELATED] Take it easy on him Paul after all his party has no planks left in its platform because of dry rot; fiscal responsibility- yeah right! "family values"- get serious. Tax breaks- we had a bunch of those right before the latest depression, deregulation- had a bunch of that right before the latest depression too! I mean what's left? Abortion? Prayer in public school? "Spreading freedom" on behalf of Exxon, Haliburton and Lockheed Martin? His whole social philosophy has gone down the toilet in the last couple of years all he has left is Hillary and saying "no" to those people who aren't responsible for having run our nation into financial and moral ditch. He is a stubborn remnant of a failed experiment who has yet to figure out that his time is past so cut him some slack because his kind will be extinct soon enough...fortunately. -- "The long memory is the most radical idea in America."- Utah Phillips Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1356812/god.html">I have no God.</a>

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                            READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  I have no God. posted by  Sil on  Fri Jun 26 15:24 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 19:25 CST 2009 [RELATED] his kind will be extinct soon enough...fortunately. Wow, Snoot, your optimism simply blows me away. ;-) -- "62 PV544 (B20, M41), "71 142E, "93 240 Classic Wagon. Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1356817/god.html">I have no God.</a>

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                              READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  I have no God. posted by  Snootfull on  Sat Jun 27 10:15 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 22:09 CST 2009 [RELATED] I have faith that the unholy alliance is over and that the real Conservatives have finally had enough of these Johnny-come-lately douche bags that hijacked the Republican party and ran it into the ditch. The real conservatives are beginning to realize that they made a deal with the devil when they teamed up with these asshole Neocons and they are starting to stand up against the self-destructive insanity of the Neocon creed. True Conservatives are beginning to realize that they don't stand a chance of ever seeing the light of day again as long as they are connected at the hip with the Neocon lunatics. -- "The long memory is the most radical idea in America."- Utah Phillips Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1356915/god.html">I have no God.</a>

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                        READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  nt posted by  B20Paul. on  Thu Jun 25 17:05 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 13:12 CST 2009 [RELATED] Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1356640/keith_olbermann_god.html">nt</a>

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                    READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Officer Crack Smoker, who the hell is Keith Olbermann? posted by  B20Paul. on  Thu Jun 25 13:02 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 13:12 CST 2009 [RELATED] That's your opinion, that is not a fact. The wall was coming down with or without him. Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1356573/officer_crack_smoker_hell_keith_olbermann.html">Officer Crack Smoker, who the hell is Keith Olbermann?</a>

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                      READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Officer Crack Smoker, who the hell is Keith Olbermann? posted by  Snootfull on  Thu Jun 25 13:24 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 22:09 CST 2009 [RELATED] Reagan said "tear down this wall" and the wall was torn down (eventually), what more proof do you need? If only Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford or Carter had thought of saying something like that then the whole cold war could have been avoided because in the absence of any leverage whatsoever tough talk works. Khrushchev banged his shoe on the podium and the United States crumbled, Castro ran his pie-hole and the U.S. fell apart, Bush swore he would get Bin Landen and now we have him firmly in hand. You see if you just run your jowls mindlessly then everything will go your way. If we would let the American neocons yell at and threaten the Iranian neocons then I am certain that the world would be a better place and it would in no way undermine the people on the street in Tehran. -- "The long memory is the most radical idea in America.'- Utah Phillips Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1356584/officer_crack_smoker_hell_keith_olbermann.html">Officer Crack Smoker, who the hell is Keith Olbermann?</a>

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                        READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  tear down this wall posted by  B20Paul. on  Thu Jun 25 13:54 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 13:12 CST 2009 [RELATED] Reagan said "tear down this wall" and the wall was torn down (eventually), what more proof do you need? I remember that, it was hilarious to see the old fool saying "tear down this wall" when the wall was already falling over before he got there. Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1356592/tear_wall.html">tear down this wall</a>

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                          READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  tear down this wall posted by  Snootfull on  Thu Jun 25 14:01 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 22:09 CST 2009 [RELATED] I used to like when he stood there and put on his tough Hollywood cowboy face and said "we do not make deals with terrorists". Meanwhile, back in reality, he was giving out weapons to terrorists in exchange for hostages like there was no tomorrow which is why terrorists kept taking hostages all through the eighties. All image no substance which is why he is so beloved by the average American idiot. -- "The long memory is the most radical idea in America.'- Utah Phillips Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1356594/tear_wall.html">tear down this wall</a>

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            READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Snoot's food gives me indigestion...... posted by  Snootfull on  Wed Jun 24 17:39 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 22:09 CST 2009 [RELATED] "Do you know what Bush and Reagan did that neither Carter or Clinton did?"- I would have said "shit on the Constitution and sold weapons to our enemies in blatant violation of the law" but then again that is the difference between us, you give them credit they don't necessarily deserve and I hold them accountable for their actions. -- "The long memory is the most radical idea in America."- Utah Phillips Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1356428/snoots_food_gives_indigestion.html">Snoot's food gives me indigestion......</a>

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              READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Snoot's food gives me indigestion...... posted by  03V-70awd on  Wed Jun 24 18:08 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 19:15 CST 2009 [RELATED] And what credit does Obama deserve? Doubling the debt faster than the NHL playoffs took? Making a joke of our bankruptcy laws? Saying he will still sit down with a terror regime even as they mow down innocent people in their own streets? Pass more smoking laws and taxes aimed to reduce consumption of a product he himself consumes? All this in only six months. "you give them credit they don't necessarily deserve" So the Taliban still prevents women from getting educated in Afghan cities and towns? Uday, Kusay, & Opie Hussein still rape and torture for sport? Their daddy still gasses his citizenry? The Berlin wall still stands? East & West Germany still haven't reunified? Wow, were the newspapers around here ever wrong. -- Just bought a 03 V70 T5 AWD. It is my second Volvo. My 1995 960 had over 250K on it when I sold it. I hope this one lasts that long too. Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1356431/snoots_food_gives_indigestion.html">Snoot's food gives me indigestion......</a>

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                READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Snoot's food gives me indigestion...... posted by  Snootfull on  Wed Jun 24 18:16 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 22:09 CST 2009 [RELATED] If only everything was as simple in reality as it is in your head your caricature based fantasy-land might begin to slightly resemble the real world. -- "The long memory is the most radical idea in America."- Utah Phillips Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1356434/snoots_food_gives_indigestion.html">Snoot's food gives me indigestion......</a>

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  READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Iran Votes posted by  Snootfull on  Wed Jun 17 09:46 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 22:09 CST 2009 [RELATED] What I find interesting is the use of words like "revolution", "opposition" and "reform" in the reporting on Iran. At the end of the day the election in Iran is between candidates who were hand picked by the Mullahs and no matter who "wins" the Mullahs will still remain firmly in charge. The election itself is a fraud so to focus on fraud within the election seems a bit strange. I almost wonder if this whole situation wasn't planned by the Mullahs as a dissipating release of pent up energy and dissatisfaction within the masses, a way to prevent any real change or true revolution from occurring within Iranian society and a way to flush out political enemies whithout any threat to religious rule. -- "The long memory is the most radical idea in America.'- Utah Phillips Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1354830/iran_votes.html">Iran Votes</a>

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    READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Iran Votes posted by  Flab FC on  Thu Jun 18 08:00 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 18:33 CST 2009 [RELATED] Eh...I am not so sure both candidates were handpicked. BEfore Bush had to blather his axis of evil comments, the Mullahs were slowly losing their hold on the generation that is so upset at the moment. Nor would they have rigged the election to make sure Mousavi lost. Most importantly, that theya re allowing this protest indicates they do not feel they have the hold they once did. I am waiting to hear from a friendly couple some of the under ground dirt. Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1355056/iran_votes.html">Iran Votes</a>

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      READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  underground dirt posted by  B20Paul. on  Thu Jun 25 13:06 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 13:12 CST 2009 [RELATED] I am waiting to hear from a friendly couple some of the under ground dirt. Any word from them besides the carnage we can see on YouTube? Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1356577/underground_dirt.html">underground dirt</a>

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    READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Snoot shoots & scores..... posted by  03V-70awd on  Wed Jun 17 15:13 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 19:15 CST 2009 [RELATED] Snoot we are of like minds on this issue. I wondered how long it would be before someone brought up Mousavi's connection to Iran's nuclear program. Hardly a reformist. -- The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them.' Albert Einstein Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1354903/snoot_shoots_scores.html">Snoot shoots & scores.....</a>

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      READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Snoot shoots & scores..... posted by  Flab FC on  Wed Jun 17 15:35 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 18:33 CST 2009 [RELATED] I wondered how long it would be before someone brought up Mousavi's connection to Iran's nuclear program. Mousavi's affiliation with Iran's nuclear programm is irrelevant. We also have a very large nuclear programm with a largfe nuclear arsenal. We have it regardless of who is in office, right or left. I see no reason why Iran is any different. Unfortunately, they are motivated to have it too, seeing as some of their fellow nations in the Middle East also possess nuclear programms and arms. Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1354912/snoot_shoots_scores.html">Snoot shoots & scores.....</a>

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        READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  As a visionary you are a Wonder, unfortunately you are a Stevie Wonder..... posted by  03V-70awd on  Wed Jun 17 17:51 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 19:15 CST 2009 [RELATED] Mousavi's affiliation with Iran's nuclear programm is irrelevant I disagree. Things in the Middle East have been bad enough with Syria and Iran sponsoring the daily terror in Lebanon and Israel. Do you not think that when Mahmoud stood up at the U.N. and spoke about the coming of the the twelfth Imam, and hoping to bring about his return to the earth, that one might wonder how he will help bring about that return? He has said in speeches that chaos and catastrophe will be that help. He has also promised to wipe Israel off the map. It seems to me that lobbing a nuke into Israel might accomplish both goals in his mind. I would say that anything to do with their nuclear ambitions is "relevant". Why is it Flab that when folks do what they say they intend to do Liberals are surprised that it happened? Clinton thought Osama was blowing off steam with all his death to America talk, U.S. warship attacks, and embassy bombings. During his second term the 9/11 attack was planned and put into motion, despite the many warning signs mentioned above. We also have a very large nuclear programm with a largfe nuclear arsenal. O.K., so you are equating our great nation with this third world hell hole? Please, we also have medicine, food, and citizens willing to help others in need. The difference is we only used our nuclear weapons against one foe, and that foe was warned and offered the chance to surrender. They gambled we were bluffing. They were wrong. On the other hand we export our help and generous nature constantly. All too often this helping hand does not result in friendship or loyalty in return. But we still do it. please don't compare the nation of the Salvation Army and American Red Cross with the nation that sponsors Hezbolah. You asked for an example of you trashing the U.S., I would say this qualifies, comparing the U.S. with the land of the Ayatollah. I see no reason why Iran is any different. You must have the same prescription as Ray Charles. -- Just bought a 03 V70 T5 AWD. It is my second Volvo. My 1995 960 had over 250K on it when I sold it. I hope this one lasts that long too. Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1354946/visionary_wonder_unfortunately_stevie.html">As a visionary you are a Wonder, unfortunately you are a Stevie Wonder.....</a>

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          READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  As a visionary you are a Wonder, unfortunately you are a Stevie Wonder..... posted by  Sil on  Thu Jun 18 16:26 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 19:25 CST 2009 [RELATED] O.K., so you are equating our great nation with this third world hell hole? In response to that idiotic question an Iranian might pose a few of his/her own, like: "Do you realize that we were a great nation with, for example, written laws, two thousand years before Columbus set foot on what he thought was Japan? Did you know that we were living in great cities where the arts and science flourished when your European ancestors were still living in mud huts without even the slightest inkling that there was such a thing as reading and writing? Do understand that we have a continuous history of developing political and government institutions that predates your puny Magna Carta by a millennium-and-a-half and the framing of the US Constitution by two?" He/she might also say, "If you ever perused the National Geographic Magazine for anything but to look at the pictures of naked African ladies, you might have learned that, far from being a hell hole, Iran is a country of great natural beauty and climatic variation." He/she might also remind you that, if you had paid attention to your fellow Brickboarders, you would be aware that Iran's current political misfortunes are the direct consequence of your "great nation"'s meddling in its internal affairs and backing its arch enemy, Iraq. An Iranian might also claim that it was the Persians that civilized the Greeks, just as the Greeks claim that they civilized the Romans and the Italians that they civilized Europe; and the Europeans sometimes shake their heads and wonder where it all went to when they "civilized" America - North, Middle, and South. But that's an argument I won't join. A man does need to keep a few friends. Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1355151/visionary_wonder_unfortunately_stevie.html">As a visionary you are a Wonder, unfortunately you are a Stevie Wonder.....</a>

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            READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  As a visionary you are a Wonder, unfortunately you are a Stevie Wonder..... posted by  03V-70awd on  Thu Jun 18 19:42 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 19:15 CST 2009 [RELATED] ""Do you realize that we were a great nation with, for example, written laws, two thousand years before Columbus set foot on what he thought was Japan? So they were on the cutting edge just after the wheel was invented, but some time before the introduction of sliced bread they lost all forward momentum? I mean the Babylonians invented beer. They were off to a good start also, but what have they done for us lately? What does the ancient history of accomplishments do for the people today being run by 12th century thinkers in 2009? "Iran is a country of great natural beauty and climatic variation." Sil, come on now. They have a nation that consists of 0.7% water. I guess that variation doesn't include seeing water. They still have quaint little customs from the old days like stoning uppity women and gays. By law a female life is worth half of a Iranian male. Their entire nation's GDP is roughly just over half of Texas' annual GDP. It sounds like a paradise Sil. -- Just bought a 03 V70 T5 AWD. It is my second Volvo. My 1995 960 had over 250K on it when I sold it. I hope this one lasts that long too. Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1355180/visionary_wonder_unfortunately_stevie.html">As a visionary you are a Wonder, unfortunately you are a Stevie Wonder.....</a>

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              READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  The joy of ignorance. posted by  TortFeezer on  Fri Jun 19 09:08 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Fri Nov 13 11:13 CST 2009 [RELATED] The deliberate ignorance you show for the world you live in really does explain why the United States is floundering. How can you possibly when a battle if you don' t know the terrain? How can you win the hearts and minds of possible foes if you don' t understand the culture and background? Ridiculing your perceived enemy only weakens your own position. Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1355276/joy_ignorance.html">The joy of ignorance.</a>

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              READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  As a visionary you are a Wonder, unfortunately you are a Stevie Wonder..... posted by  Sil on  Fri Jun 19 08:39 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 19:25 CST 2009 [RELATED] Don't tell me. Tell that to the Iranian who was answering your question with some questions of her/his own, or any Iranian for that matter. ;-) So they were on the cutting edge just after the wheel was invented, but some time before the introduction of sliced bread they lost all forward momentum? I mean the Babylonians invented beer. They were off to a good start also, but what have they done for us lately? What does the ancient history of accomplishments do for the people today being run by 12th century thinkers in 2009? Civilizations rise and fall (Pay close attention to what is happening to our own.), but that doesn't detract from the contributions they made to human history. Irrational as it may seem, the deeper the decline, the greater the pride of those who claim once-great-nationhood as part of their heritage. Contemplating past glories is, apparently, good for one's morale when everything else fails. We are not immune to that sentiment. In fact, one might say that it is the very foundation of conservatism. They still have quaint little customs from the old days like stoning uppity women and gays. By law a female life is worth half of a Iranian male. Maybe that's why there seems to be a bit of a political disagreement going on over there right now. I thought you had noticed. Sil, come on now. They have a nation that consists of 0.7% water. I guess that variation doesn't include seeing water. Aside from the Caspian Sea, the Persian Gulf, and the Arabian Sea, I do believe there is the occasional trickle of water here and there for Iranians to feast their eyes on and even quaff their thirst. You might enjoy looking at these pictures. Alas, no naked ladies. It may be wise to consider that, if you hope to get the upper-hand over an adversary, it's essential that you know, understand, and respect him. Being disdainful of his culture and his capabilities, which are likely to be completely different from your own, leads to costly disasters like Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan. Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1355266/visionary_wonder_unfortunately_stevie.html">As a visionary you are a Wonder, unfortunately you are a Stevie Wonder.....</a>

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          READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  At least facts don't get in the way of my visions...... posted by  Flab FC on  Wed Jun 17 22:17 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 18:33 CST 2009 [RELATED] ..maybe that's why they are always so dull to you. First of all, I am never surprised by what religious fanatics do regardless of what liberals think. I just don't see what was said at the UN any different than what our own President Bush was saying, and going to war over. The man literally quoted the Bible like any Muslim fanatic in justifying his agenda. Bush: God Told Me to Invade Iraq Bush believed the time had now come for that battle, telling Chirac: "This confrontation is willed by God, who wants to use this conflict to erase his people's enemies before a New Age begins". Chirac/Bush ( I have written the author asking for a reference to the French magazine, to verify it.) You seem to support Bush though, so, I am not quite sure what your problem is. Clinton thought Osama was blowing off steam with all his death to America talk, U.S. warship attacks, and embassy bombings. Ok,.see here we are back into that fabrication denial of facts thing. Clinton never said or did any such thing. He was the one who actually created a Terrorism Czar, who was promptly ignored by the Bush Admin when he attempted to collar them immediately about the dangers of Bin Laden. Clarke said he asked for a Cabinet-level meeting in January 2001, shortly after the president took office, to discuss the threat al Qaeda posed to the United States. "That urgent memo wasn't acted on," Clarke told CBS. Instead, he said, administration officials were focused on issues such as missile defense and Iraq. Clarke I've read the book, and, even before I read the book, I saw some other more official documents on it in another publication too. Sorry, but Condi with her Cold War mentality blew Bin Laden off, and Wolfewitz couldn't get his pea brain beyond Iraq from day one. So, no, it wasn't Clinton's fault. Clinton handed over a man primed on the job, and the Bush Admin ignored him. Really, all that is old news, so if you haven't gotten it by now, I really am going tp out it to your never letting facts get in the way. O.K., so you are equating our great nation with this third world hell hole? Well, I guess that would depend what part of the US I am comparing. We have 3rd world nation status in places in the in US. Next time I am back visiting some freinds in WVA I'll take some juicy photgraphs, with the mansion on the hill and trash destitution at the bottom. Here's a good one. Poverty So don't get to holding you nose too high. Remember, you don't actually live down here in the South with us yahoos. You live in a nice socialized state. Please, we also have medicine, food, and citizens willing to help others in need. So does Hezbollah, but I am not sure you want to compare us to them, do you? The difference is we only used our nuclear weapons against one foe, and that foe was warned and offered the chance to surrender. Who has Iran hit with a nuclear device? No one. I doubt if Iran said the same thing after hitting Iraq or Israel, you would appreciate it. Nor has the US ever stopped from holding Nuclear weapons as part of the military arsenal. The proint I am making is that Iran feels it has the right to exist as much as Israel is making bombing runs on their installations, you can't be surprised if they respond. The same is true if Iran attacks Israel. On the other hand we export our help and generous nature constantly. I agree that Americans as individuals frequently are extremely generous. The US government is not. It gives money on a different agenda. Thatś why people tend to like Americans, but dislike US Aid. please don't compare the nation of the Salvation Army and American Red Cross with the nation that sponsors Hezbolah. I didn't. I compared our right to a particular defense arsenal to theirs, if that's what they want. However, if you want to make comparisons, remember we sponsored the terrorism of Osama Bin Laden. We made him, jsutifying it as a fight for Freedom and Justice against the Red Commie Menace. Bit us in the backside though, didn't it? A very cool real-politik person might simply say that 9/11 was the last battle of the cold war then. Those citizens died to save us from the USSR, seeing as after Afghanistan, it all came undone. Were 3000 lives worth beating the USSR? You asked for an example of you trashing the U.S., I would say this qualifies, comparing the U.S. with the land of the Ayatollah. No, it does not qualify, except in your own typical fabricational straw man arguments based on a juxtaposition were there wasn't one. I am comparing Iran with other countries in the ME that already possess nuclear weapons. I highlighted that they are doing something we have done, in the name of self- defense. Most importantly, I am not trashing America, but using facts to trash a shrinking ideological minority in America that uses hypocracy and fabrications to justify its very unproductive, weakening, and destructive policies. IN short, I am trashing your ideology, which, whether you like it or not, is not 'America.' Its at most about 20% of America right now, and there is another 80% in America that thinks very differently. If you don't like the Ayatollah, then ask your ideological friends why the felt it was important to support the Shah. Now, I think my conversation on this is really over. You are a broken record, and I have better things to do than to listen to a continuous stream of fabrications from someone who just can't diveroce himself from stories to marry the facts. Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1355003/least_facts_dont_get_way_visions.html">At least facts don't get in the way of my visions......</a>

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  READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Iran Votes posted by  Jorrell on  Mon Jun 15 20:51 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 21:51 CST 2009 [RELATED] Okay, a wild vote that originally seemed to lean in our favor, but then, the unthinkable happened (not, it was expected), the mullahs cranked the rules in their favor! After the Mullahs realized that their public wasn't buying the BS, and there were too many foreign correspondents in Iran sending news to the rest of the world, the Mullahs blinked as a significant portion of the world condemned the election. Now the Mullahs and a-hole-job will pucker up for a few weeks and will eventually report back with a a-hole-job won by 2 votes and his opponent will be killed or kicked out of Iran, or given a pathetic government post with an AK-47 to the back of his head. I know I'm always harsh on the media, but international media presence in Iran is the only reason thousands of people didn't die today! Do you recall a-hole-job's comments about gays in Iran while he was on US soil? Simple, he killed them! "We simply don't have that phenomenon". And if you folks think Iran is a threat right here right now, stick your heads in a bucket of ice rather than the sand and wake up to North Korea! After all, how many nukes has Iran set off??? Zero, zilch, nada, squat! I know you can answer the North Korea question in a far more positive method. jorrell Is it time for a first strike, or is our missile shield up and running? -- 92 245 278K miles, IPD'd to the hilt, 06 XC70, 00 Eclipse custom Turbo setup...currently taking names and kicking reputations! Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1354542/iran_votes.html">Iran Votes</a>

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  READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Looks like I was wrong, Ahmadinejad stays put for now. posted by  B20Paul. on  Sat Jun 13 16:58 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 13:12 CST 2009 [RELATED] Ahmadinejad is on the outer, Mousavi is on the way in. Looks like I was wrong, Ahmadinejad stays put for now. I'm still surprised at the amount of protesting in Iran which is being allowed to continue post election. Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1354063/looks_like_wrong_ahmadinejad_stays_put_now.html">Looks like I was wrong, Ahmadinejad stays put for now.</a>

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    READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Looks like I was wrong, Ahmadinejad stays put for now. posted by  Bill Bretherton on  Mon Jun 15 06:10 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Fri Nov 20 06:43 CST 2009 [RELATED] Yes, the protesting is unprecedented for Iran. But these are bright, young middle-class, educated Iranians who have had enough of the repression. I don't know if you're getting the TV coverage like we are here on the BBC but the women are wearing the headgear at a jaunty angle and revealing fancy hair-do's and are wearing expensive looking shades. Iran was, in effect, more progressive under the last Shah, despite what you may think about him, but this current regime put a stop to that. It's that age old compromise between "freedom" with its concomitant social issues (say gun crime) and repression where you control the masses with, in this case, religion. I predict that there's such a groundswell of protest in Iran that something's got to change soon. Have you noticed that no-one's been shot yet? Regards. -- BillB Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1354363/looks_like_wrong_ahmadinejad_stays_put_now.html">Looks like I was wrong, Ahmadinejad stays put for now.</a>

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    READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Mr ArmouredDinnerJacket stays in power because the election, like most things under his "stewardship', was no doubt crooked. (NMI) posted by  Steve Abbott on  Sat Jun 13 20:06 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Fri Nov 6 16:38 CST 2009 [RELATED] Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1354120/mr_armoureddinnerjacket_stays_power_election_like_things_stewardship_doubt_crooked_nmi.html">Mr ArmouredDinnerJacket stays in power because the election, like most things under his "stewardship', was no doubt crooked. (NMI)</a>

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  READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Things Paul didn't tell you and probably didn't know..... posted by  03V-70awd on  Sat Jun 13 06:59 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 19:15 CST 2009 [RELATED] Today the results were announced. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad won by a very healthy margin. Polling data, and people in the country, thought the race was close and many gave the edge to Mousavi. The problem is one voting block counts more than any other in Iran. The Mullahs supported Mahmoud, and low and behold, yes he received over 62% of the vote in a race where many thought he would lose. You see Paul this as I said days ago is NOT a democracy. This is a state run by religious leaders. This vote was not dissimilar to us voting for an American Idol singers. Guess what what? That vote is probably predetermined as well. Sorry to bust your bubble. -- “Things in life will not always run smoothly. Sometimes we will be rising towards the heights, and then all will seem to reverse itself and start downward. The great fact to remember is that the trend of civilization is forever upward.” Dr. Endicott Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1353962/things_paul_didnt_tell_probably_know.html">Things Paul didn't tell you and probably didn't know.....</a>

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    READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Everyone knows that Ayatollah Khomeini is the one in charge, but posted by  B20Paul. on  Sat Jun 13 17:23 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 13:12 CST 2009 [RELATED] Everyone knows that Ayatollah Khomeini is the one in charge, but they still listen to the people. You see Paul this as I said days ago is NOT a democracy. This is a state run by religious leaders. So during Dubya's eight year reign of terror from 2001 to 2009, the USA was not a democracy either according to your rules of democracy. Religion runs Iran, Lobbyists run the USA, one isn't that much better than the other. Sorry to bust your bubble. Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1354070/everyone_knows_ayatollah_khomeini_one_charge.html">Everyone knows that Ayatollah Khomeini is the one in charge, but</a>

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      READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Everyone knows that Ayatollah Khomeini is the one in charge, but posted by  mike t on  Tue Jun 23 21:20 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 21:46 CST 2009 [RELATED] I've been looking at this for nearly two weeks and it drives me crazy. Not to be anal (but I can be), the name is.. Grand Ayatollah Sayyid Ali Hoseyni Khāmene’i (Ali Khāmene’i). Ayatollah Rudollah Khomeini died in 1989 and was succeded by Khāmene’i. Khāmene’i does wield supreme power in his position that is true. Little things bug me I guess! Little things are important in trying to understand such weighty issues. Mike -- 64 220 (RIP, now he's parts on the hoof) - 65 220 - 68 220 (almost ready for the road), and a 66 130 (35k miles last year) Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1356213/everyone_knows_ayatollah_khomeini_one_charge.html">Everyone knows that Ayatollah Khomeini is the one in charge, but</a>

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        READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Officer Plod says you are WRONG! posted by  B20Paul. on  Wed Jun 24 07:34 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 13:12 CST 2009 [RELATED] Grand Ayatollah Sayyid Ali Hoseyni Khāmene’i (Ali Khāmene’i). Ayatollah Rudollah Khomeini died in 1989 and was succeded by Khāmene’i. According to Orificer Plod, he is still ruling from beyond the grave. Khāmene’i does wield supreme power in his position that is true. I don't think he has all the power like Saddam did. Iran is run by a single group of Allah freaks, rather than a single dictator. Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1356272/officer_plod_says_wrong.html">Officer Plod says you are WRONG!</a>

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          READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Officer Plod says you are WRONG! posted by  mike t on  Wed Jun 24 08:35 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 21:46 CST 2009 [RELATED] "According to Orificer Plod, he is still ruling from beyond the grave." Not one of my usual sources!!!! HEH! "I don't think he has all the power like Saddam did. Iran is run by a single group of Allah freaks, rather than a single dictator." You are correct. The Supreme Leader serves at the discretion of the Assembly of Experts. To date, the Assembly of Experts has not involved itself in any action against the the supreme leader. As a practical matter, the actions of the Supreme Leader have been unchallenged. Allah freaks?!?! Don't know that I will go there... It's their system and it's not our position to interfere in their internal affairs. As long as they play within the bounds of proper international behavior, fine. If not, bust a cap in their asses. Let me add... Iran generating energy with nuclear power is not an offense against the world, as I see it... Nor is their holding objectionable political views. Thinking bad is debatable, acting bad is actionable. mike -- 64 220 (RIP, now he's parts on the hoof) - 65 220 - 68 220 (almost ready for the road), and a 66 130 (35k miles last year) Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1356279/officer_plod_says_wrong.html">Officer Plod says you are WRONG!</a>

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            READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Officer Plod says you are WRONG! posted by  03V-70awd on  Thu Jun 25 15:23 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 19:15 CST 2009 [RELATED] " Let me add... Iran generating energy with nuclear power is not an offense against the world, as I see it. Yeah, and Saddam only wanted the Mustard gas because it went well with his hot dog gas. -- “Things in life will not always run smoothly. Sometimes we will be rising towards the heights, and then all will seem to reverse itself and start downward. The great fact to remember is that the trend of civilization is forever upward.” Dr. Endicott Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1356613/officer_plod_says_wrong.html">Officer Plod says you are WRONG!</a>

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              READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Officer Plod says you are WRONG! posted by  mike t on  Thu Jun 25 16:18 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 21:46 CST 2009 [RELATED] Saddam, the dead one right? His ticket was cancelled... the circumstances were messy, but he is now room temperature. No tears here! How Iran utilizes nuclear energy determines how we deal with them. They (and many others) have the capability and will do as they will and we should be willing to confront bad behavior with bad consequences. Even pre-emptive action.... if PROPERLY justified and CONSTITUTIONALLY invoked. mike -- 64 220 (RIP, now he's parts on the hoof) - 65 220 - 68 220 (almost ready for the road), and a 66 130 (35k miles last year) Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1356623/officer_plod_says_wrong.html">Officer Plod says you are WRONG!</a>

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            READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Officer Plod says you are WRONG! posted by  B20Paul. on  Thu Jun 25 15:03 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 13:12 CST 2009 [RELATED] Iran generating energy with nuclear power is not an offense against the world, as I see it... Nor is their holding objectionable political views. Agreed, nuclear power for Iran is fine by me, I just hope they have heavily studied the French method of governing nuclear power. Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1356607/officer_plod_says_wrong.html">Officer Plod says you are WRONG!</a>

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              READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Officer Plod says you are WRONG! posted by  03V-70awd on  Thu Jun 25 16:42 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 19:15 CST 2009 [RELATED] I just hope they have heavily studied the French method of governing nuclear power. We can bet they studied the French method of selling nuclear weapons technology to anyone with a pulse and a checkbook. -- The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them.' Albert Einstein Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1356630/officer_plod_says_wrong.html">Officer Plod says you are WRONG!</a>

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                READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Uhhhh posted by  T.Lyttle on  Thu Jun 25 19:55 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 20:39 CST 2009 [RELATED] Isn't this the same logic used to defend the 2nd Amendment? If you arm everyone, then everyone will be safe? Please enlighten me on the difference.... Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1356670/uhhhh.html">Uhhhh</a>

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                  READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Uhhhh posted by  Snootfull on  Thu Jun 25 20:34 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 22:09 CST 2009 [RELATED] If only the people who agree with you are armed then you are even safer! -- "The long memory is the most radical idea in America."- Utah Phillips Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1356678/uhhhh.html">Uhhhh</a>

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                READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Officer Plod says you are WRONG! posted by  B20Paul. on  Thu Jun 25 16:54 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 13:12 CST 2009 [RELATED] We can bet they studied the French method of selling nuclear weapons technology to anyone with a pulse and a checkbook. How is that different from the fact that Saddam got most of his weapons from the good ol' USA? That was great fun wasn't it, supply the weapons for Iraq to attack Iran, AND, wasn't it an awesomely bright idea to send millions of your tax dollars to Afghanistan + train them to fight Russia, that didn't backfire either did it? That's your tax dollars at work for ya. Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1356636/officer_plod_says_wrong.html">Officer Plod says you are WRONG!</a>

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      READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Everyone knows that Ayatollah Khomeini is the one in charge, but posted by  Stickbuilder on  Sun Jun 14 19:34 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 22:05 CST 2009 [RELATED] I got a flash for you Paul. The good old U.S.of A. has never been a Democracy. It's a Representative Republic. Democracy is nothing but mob rule. Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1354316/everyone_knows_ayatollah_khomeini_one_charge.html">Everyone knows that Ayatollah Khomeini is the one in charge, but</a>

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        READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Everyone knows that Ayatollah Khomeini is the one in charge, but posted by  Stickbuilder on  Tue Jun 16 07:46 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 22:05 CST 2009 [RELATED] And it would appear that Paul ran from and tried to ignore the last post, as he normally does when he posts a false message, and gets called on it. Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1354594/everyone_knows_ayatollah_khomeini_one_charge.html">Everyone knows that Ayatollah Khomeini is the one in charge, but</a>

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          READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Everyone knows that Ayatollah Khomeini is the one in charge, but posted by  B20Paul. on  Tue Jun 16 08:14 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 13:12 CST 2009 [RELATED] You made a nonsensical statement & I didn't have time for a senile old weakling then. You got me now, so did you have a question or did you see something on Faux that you should echo? Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1354597/everyone_knows_ayatollah_khomeini_one_charge.html">Everyone knows that Ayatollah Khomeini is the one in charge, but</a>

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            READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Everyone knows that Ayatollah Khomeini is the one in charge, but posted by  Stickbuilder on  Tue Jun 16 08:55 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 22:05 CST 2009 [RELATED] You posted erroneous information, and I simply called your hand on it, you weak young punk. Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1354606/everyone_knows_ayatollah_khomeini_one_charge.html">Everyone knows that Ayatollah Khomeini is the one in charge, but</a>

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              READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Everyone knows that Ayatollah Khomeini is the one in charge, but posted by  B20Paul. on  Tue Jun 16 09:04 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 13:12 CST 2009 [RELATED] What was the erroneous information? Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1354610/everyone_knows_ayatollah_khomeini_one_charge.html">Everyone knows that Ayatollah Khomeini is the one in charge, but</a>

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                READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Everyone knows that Ayatollah Khomeini is the one in charge, but posted by  Stickbuilder on  Tue Jun 16 09:09 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 22:05 CST 2009 [RELATED] You stated that the United States Of America was a Democracy, which it is not. Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1354612/everyone_knows_ayatollah_khomeini_one_charge.html">Everyone knows that Ayatollah Khomeini is the one in charge, but</a>

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                  READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Everyone knows that Ayatollah Khomeini is the one in charge, but posted by  B20Paul. on  Tue Jun 16 09:43 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 13:12 CST 2009 [RELATED] You stated that the United States Of America was a Democracy, which it is not. It is a kind of democracy, it's just not pure. Sweden has the most pure democracy at Number 1 on the Democracy Index, the United States is Number 18, just behind Japan at 17, but ahead of the UK at 21. Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1354621/everyone_knows_ayatollah_khomeini_one_charge.html">Everyone knows that Ayatollah Khomeini is the one in charge, but</a>

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                    READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Everyone knows that Ayatollah Khomeini is the one in charge, but posted by  Stickbuilder on  Tue Jun 16 13:37 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 22:05 CST 2009 [RELATED] No, Child. The United States of America is not any kind of Democracy. It is a Representative Republic. Look it up in your real Encyclopedia. You will learn the difference, and will be able to amaze your friends with your newfound knowledge. Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1354671/everyone_knows_ayatollah_khomeini_one_charge.html">Everyone knows that Ayatollah Khomeini is the one in charge, but</a>

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                      READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  The USA is a Representative Democracy. posted by  B20Paul. on  Wed Jun 17 08:51 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 13:12 CST 2009 [RELATED] You can call it a Republic as much as you like, it just demonstrates how old & out of date you are. Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1354820/usa_representative_democracy.html">The USA is a Representative Democracy.</a>

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                        READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  The USA is a Representative Democracy. posted by  Stickbuilder on  Wed Jun 17 13:58 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 22:05 CST 2009 [RELATED] Child, just admit that you are wrong and move on. Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1354888/usa_representative_democracy.html">The USA is a Representative Democracy.</a>

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                          READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  The USA is a Representative Democracy. posted by  B20Paul. on  Wed Jun 24 12:20 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 13:12 CST 2009 [RELATED] Look it up in your real Encyclopedia. In the United States, Founding Fathers like James Madison defined republic in terms of representative democracy as opposed to direct democracy. Source: James Madison. The Federalist, Number 10, The New York Packet, 23 November, 1787. Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1356354/usa_representative_democracy.html">The USA is a Representative Democracy.</a>

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                        READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  The USA is a Representative Democracy. posted by  mike t on  Wed Jun 17 11:47 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 21:46 CST 2009 [RELATED] Paul I have to agree with Bill at a basic level. Most scholars agree the US is at it's most basic, a federal republic. This does not mean we don't practice a representative form of democracy. Fact is, there has never been a form of government quite like the USA and it really doesn't fit neatly into any one simple definition, This too, is also almost universally agreed upon. To say Bill is wrong and you are right is not possible... neither is Bill completely right and you wrong. There are plenty of grey areas and ambiguities. You can continue the disagreement as long as you both want, but there is no right or wrong answer and you are left with only futility and animosity for your collective troubles. For the record; "Iran's government is described as a "theocratic republic". Iran's head of state, or Supreme Leader, is an Islamic cleric appointed for life by a half-elected council.⎙] The Council of Guardians, considered part of the executive branch of government, is responsible for determining if legislation is in line with Islamic law and customs (the Sharia), and can bar candidates from elections." This, from Wikipedia. For all wiki's strengths and weaknesses, this seem to be a pretty apt description of the Iranian system. Not just, simply, a "Theocracy". Lot's of shades of gray. I like discussion, but the current level of personal animosity is very unsettling. I would hope for a bit more cordiality in the interchange. I'm really tired of the mean spiritedness infecting most conversations of late. We wouldn't talk like this in our living rooms... why must we here? mike -- 64 220 (RIP, now he's parts on the hoof) - 65 220 - 68 220 (almost ready for the road), and a 66 130 (35k miles last year) Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1354866/usa_representative_democracy.html">The USA is a Representative Democracy.</a>

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                          READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  The USA is a Representative Democracy. posted by  Stickbuilder on  Wed Jun 17 13:54 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 22:05 CST 2009 [RELATED] Because If I were in his living room, or if he were in mine, he would not have the nerve to say such. Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1354887/usa_representative_democracy.html">The USA is a Representative Democracy.</a>

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                            READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Because If I were in his living room, or if he were in mine, he would not have the nerve to say such. posted by  B20Paul. on  Wed Jun 24 12:26 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 13:12 CST 2009 [RELATED] Because If I were in his living room, or if he were in mine, he would not have the nerve to say such. Why wouldn't I? I have heated debates with my farther-in-law all the time, but we still play crib every Tuesday. Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1356357/living_room_mine_nerve_say.html"> Because If I were in his living room, or if he were in mine, he would not have the nerve to say such.</a>

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                            READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Myabe. posted by  Flab FC on  Wed Jun 17 15:31 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 18:33 CST 2009 [RELATED] I suspect he might. Just like I suspect you might threaten to beat al;l of us up person. I am afraid you have nothing to stand on in he matter of decorum. Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1354911/myabe.html">Myabe.</a>

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                              READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Psssst. Sticky. Clop clop. posted by  Flab FC on  Wed Jun 17 21:05 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 18:33 CST 2009 [RELATED] I so love to see how well trained you are. You just can't take the truth, no matter how much you like to brag on it. Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1354985/psssst_sticky_clop.html">Psssst. Sticky. Clop clop.</a>

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                                READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Psssst. Sticky. Clop clop. posted by  Stickbuilder on  Thu Jun 18 06:50 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 22:05 CST 2009 [RELATED] And what great truth would you have reference to? Oh and where is your reference material? Clop Clop back to you. Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1355043/psssst_sticky_clop.html">Psssst. Sticky. Clop clop.</a>

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                              READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Myabe. posted by  Stickbuilder on  Wed Jun 17 20:19 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 22:05 CST 2009 [RELATED] And who pulled your chain? Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1354974/myabe.html">Myabe.</a>

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                            READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  The USA is a Representative Democracy. posted by  mike t on  Wed Jun 17 15:11 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 21:46 CST 2009 [RELATED] Similar thoughts in my head. Such breaches of decorum in the real world result in immediate reactions, some painful!! Let's be glad reality tends to be a civilizing influence. mike -- 64 220 (RIP, now he's parts on the hoof) - 65 220 - 68 220 (almost ready for the road), and a 66 130 (35k miles last year) Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1354902/usa_representative_democracy.html">The USA is a Representative Democracy.</a>

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                              READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  The USA is a Representative Democracy. posted by  mike t on  Wed Jun 17 21:59 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 21:46 CST 2009 [RELATED] So much for civilizing influence. It was NOT my intent to throw gas on the fire. I offer my apologies to all for unwittingly sparking this ugly turn. We just don't seem to be able to keep this from being personal. mike -- 64 220 (RIP, now he's parts on the hoof) - 65 220 - 68 220 (almost ready for the road), and a 66 130 (35k miles last year) Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1354996/usa_representative_democracy.html">The USA is a Representative Democracy.</a>

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            READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Everyone knows that Ayatollah Khomeini is the one in charge, but posted by  Snootfull on  Tue Jun 16 08:42 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 22:09 CST 2009 [RELATED] His statement is one of those things parroted by members of the right all of the time. The fact is that the statement is true but really not relevant to this conversation, saying "we are a Republic not a democracy" is a way of sounding smart while side-stepping the issue at hand because, again, it is true but not relevant to the conversation. Anyone with a functioning brain cell understands that what you were saying is that the U.S. functions not by "mob rule" but rather by a process under which the desires of the majority are expressed politically by active participation in the process of governance with respect to the needs of the minority (when the process has not been subverted); a political arrangement that we flippantly refer to as "democracy" even though it really is not true democracy but instead contains elements of democracy. So, yippy skippy for Sticky he was right about something that was not germane to your original comment, even a broken clock is right twice a day. -- "The long memory is the most radical idea in America.'- Utah Phillips Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1354603/everyone_knows_ayatollah_khomeini_one_charge.html">Everyone knows that Ayatollah Khomeini is the one in charge, but</a>

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              READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Everyone knows that Ayatollah Khomeini is the one in charge, but posted by  B20Paul. on  Tue Jun 16 09:08 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 13:12 CST 2009 [RELATED] So if you don't have a democracy in the USA, why are they trying to force it on to Iraqis? Doesn't make any sense whatsoever. But they are giving us thumbs up, so it's all good! :) Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1354611/everyone_knows_ayatollah_khomeini_one_charge.html">Everyone knows that Ayatollah Khomeini is the one in charge, but</a>

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                READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Everyone knows that Ayatollah Khomeini is the one in charge, but posted by  Stickbuilder on  Tue Jun 16 09:13 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 22:05 CST 2009 [RELATED] Who is you and who is they? State your sources of information please. I'll do it to you, because you'd do it to me. Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1354614/everyone_knows_ayatollah_khomeini_one_charge.html">Everyone knows that Ayatollah Khomeini is the one in charge, but</a>

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                  READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  But you don' t do it. posted by  TortFeezer on  Tue Jun 16 09:40 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Fri Nov 13 11:13 CST 2009 [RELATED] You never ever reference your sources with links or anything. Everyody else does it but you never. You have to pay to play. Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1354620/don_t.html">But you don' t do it.</a>

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                    READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  But you don' t do it. posted by  Stickbuilder on  Tue Jun 16 13:38 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 22:05 CST 2009 [RELATED] Are you sure about this? Where is your link to your reference? Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1354673/don_t.html">But you don' t do it.</a>

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                      READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  But you don' t do it. posted by  Snootfull on  Tue Jun 16 14:17 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 22:09 CST 2009 [RELATED] http://www.brickboard.com/FORUMS/SubmitSearch.htm?uid=42201 -- "The long memory is the most radical idea in America.'- Utah Phillips Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1354680/don_t.html">But you don' t do it.</a>

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                        READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  But you don' t do it. posted by  Stickbuilder on  Tue Jun 16 14:19 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 22:05 CST 2009 [RELATED] Feel better now? Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1354682/don_t.html">But you don' t do it.</a>

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                          READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  But you don' t do it. posted by  Snootfull on  Tue Jun 16 14:24 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 22:09 CST 2009 [RELATED] You know it. Thanks for the thumbs up, it makes me feel special. -- "The long memory is the most radical idea in America.'- Utah Phillips Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1354683/don_t.html">But you don' t do it.</a>

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                            READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Yup. Both thumbs cocked. posted by  TortFeezer on  Tue Jun 16 15:15 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Fri Nov 13 11:13 CST 2009 [RELATED] Or as Flab would say 'clop clop.' Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1354688/yup_thumbs_cocked.html">Yup. Both thumbs cocked.</a>

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                  READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Everyone knows that Ayatollah Khomeini is the one in charge, but posted by  B20Paul. on  Tue Jun 16 09:28 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 13:12 CST 2009 [RELATED] Snoot knows who they are, he understands. State your sources of information please. What information would you like to know the source of? Is it America wants to bring democracy & freedom to Iraq? My source for that was George W. Bush. Do you want the source of info for where I got that you are a senile old soft cock? The source of that is from your missus when I was humping her the other day. Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1354616/everyone_knows_ayatollah_khomeini_one_charge.html">Everyone knows that Ayatollah Khomeini is the one in charge, but</a>

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                    READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Everyone knows that Ayatollah Khomeini is the one in charge, but posted by  Stickbuilder on  Wed Jun 17 07:10 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 22:05 CST 2009 [RELATED] Is this the best that you can come up with, you puny little punk? You and the rest can't come up with a reasonable response, so you turn to your puny innefective personal attacks. What a joke you are. That has all the earmarks of sending a punk little boy to do a man's job. Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1354791/everyone_knows_ayatollah_khomeini_one_charge.html">Everyone knows that Ayatollah Khomeini is the one in charge, but</a>

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                      READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Everyone knows that Ayatollah Khomeini is the one in charge, but posted by  JSBB on  Mon Jun 29 06:41 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 20:36 CST 2009 [RELATED] Are you a short man? No reason. Just curious. -- The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. -Bertrand Russell Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1357169/everyone_knows_ayatollah_khomeini_one_charge.html">Everyone knows that Ayatollah Khomeini is the one in charge, but</a>

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                        READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Everyone knows that Ayatollah Khomeini is the one in charge, but posted by  Stickbuilder on  Mon Jun 29 08:59 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 22:05 CST 2009 [RELATED] I suppose that the answer to that question would be: Relative to what? When compared to the average Pro Basketball player, then I'm fairly short. When compared to the average limp wristed liberal, I'm fairly tall. Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1357182/everyone_knows_ayatollah_khomeini_one_charge.html">Everyone knows that Ayatollah Khomeini is the one in charge, but</a>

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                          READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Everyone knows that Ayatollah Khomeini is the one in charge, but posted by  JSBB on  Thu Jul 2 19:27 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 20:36 CST 2009 [RELATED] Limp wristed liberal: your false enemy. -- The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. -Bertrand Russell Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1357896/everyone_knows_ayatollah_khomeini_one_charge.html">Everyone knows that Ayatollah Khomeini is the one in charge, but</a>

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              READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Everyone knows that Ayatollah Khomeini is the one in charge, but posted by  Stickbuilder on  Tue Jun 16 08:57 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 22:05 CST 2009 [RELATED] And you are wrong all the other times.....Is this what you are admitting? Or is your argument somewhat like the Mainstream media striving to do damage control after one of the NeoLibs runs his/her mouth, and they start to explain what that person really meant? Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1354608/everyone_knows_ayatollah_khomeini_one_charge.html">Everyone knows that Ayatollah Khomeini is the one in charge, but</a>

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                READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Everyone knows that Ayatollah Khomeini is the one in charge, but posted by  JSBB on  Mon Jun 29 06:42 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 20:36 CST 2009 [RELATED] What's a neolib? -- The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. -Bertrand Russell Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1357170/everyone_knows_ayatollah_khomeini_one_charge.html">Everyone knows that Ayatollah Khomeini is the one in charge, but</a>

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                READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Everyone knows that Ayatollah Khomeini is the one in charge, but posted by  Snootfull on  Tue Jun 16 09:33 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 22:09 CST 2009 [RELATED] Your comment was correct and I acknowledge that fact, the lable "democracy" is mis-applied pretty regulary because, as you pointed out, true "democracy" is mob rule and that is simply not what we are talking about. The fact is that when most people speak of "democracy" what they are talking about is representational government with the participation of the populace, that is obviously what George Bush meant whenever he talked about bringing "democracy" to Iraq (I don't recall you complianing about his mis-use of the word though) just like it is equally obvious what Paul means. -- "The long memory is the most radical idea in America.'- Utah Phillips Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1354619/everyone_knows_ayatollah_khomeini_one_charge.html">Everyone knows that Ayatollah Khomeini is the one in charge, but</a>

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      READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Everyone knows that the 12th century is the one in charge, but posted by  03V-70awd on  Sat Jun 13 18:11 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 19:15 CST 2009 [RELATED] Everyone knows that Ayatollah Khomeini is the one in charge, but they still listen to the people. Who is "they" and what have they done as a result of listening to the people? crickets Here's one: Making satellite T.V. illegal? Because the Iranian people really liked that, but when their was "too much western influence" (*IE: people questioning the way things are) they made foreign TV illegal, and started seizing the dishes. Yeah, sounds like you have these nice mullahs all figured out. They are kinda like Andy Griffith with a long beard. -- “Things in life will not always run smoothly. Sometimes we will be rising towards the heights, and then all will seem to reverse itself and start downward. The great fact to remember is that the trend of civilization is forever upward.” Dr. Endicott Peabody. Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1354085/everyone_knows_ayatollah_khomeini_one_charge.html">Everyone knows that the 12th century is the one in charge, but</a>

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    READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  So wher does that leave Bush? posted by  Flab FC on  Sat Jun 13 12:56 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 18:33 CST 2009 [RELATED] He won a minority of a votes in 2000, and a bare majority in 2004. Are you saying we don't have a Democratic Process then? Does it make no difference that Bush's daddy was Pres? Whatś the difference? Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1354025/wher_leave_bush.html">So wher does that leave Bush?</a>

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    READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Things Paul didn't tell you and probably didn't know..... posted by  Snootfull on  Sat Jun 13 07:06 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 22:09 CST 2009 [RELATED] Were the Mullahs appointed by Ahmadinejad's daddy? I could see how that would really throw things off and thwart the will of the people. -- "The long memory is the most radical idea in America."- Utah Phillips Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1353964/things_paul_didnt_tell_probably_know.html">Things Paul didn't tell you and probably didn't know.....</a>

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      READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Things Paul didn't tell you and probably didn't know..... posted by  03V-70awd on  Sat Jun 13 10:02 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 19:15 CST 2009 [RELATED] Were the Mullahs appointed by Ahmadinejad's daddy? I could see how that would really throw things off and thwart the will of the people. Snoot they took power at the barrel of a gun, and if need be they will remain in power via the same method. Elections there are window dressing. Presidents are puppets. Mullahs make policy, and religion is their primary guiding principle taught to them by a book written centuries ago. This is what motivates their decisions not polls or the will of the people. -- Just bought a 03 V70 T5 AWD. It is my second Volvo. My 1995 960 had over 250K on it when I sold it. I hope this one lasts that long too. Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1353989/things_paul_didnt_tell_probably_know.html">Things Paul didn't tell you and probably didn't know.....</a>

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        READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Things Paul didn't tell you and probably didn't know..... posted by  Sil on  Sat Jun 13 18:34 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 19:25 CST 2009 [RELATED] I think that what you are trying to say is that Iran is not Canada, nor the US, and not a democracy as we understand it and, probably, not even a democracy according to anyone's understanding of the term. That, let me assure you, comes as an extraordinarily startling revelation to just about everyone here. Although elsewhere you imply that things that happened before you were born are not a concern of yours, I believe that before you continue to make an ass of yourself spouting more of your opinions about Iran, you familiarize yourself with a bit of its history and the bearing that history has on the current situation there and the problem that presents for the US and the western world. For starters, I suggest you learn about Mohammed Mosaddeq HERE Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1354089/things_paul_didnt_tell_probably_know.html">Things Paul didn't tell you and probably didn't know.....</a>

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          READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Things Paul didn't tell you and probably didn't know..... posted by  mike t on  Sat Jun 13 23:13 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 21:46 CST 2009 [RELATED] Thank you Bob!!! As my dad always told me, it's better for a man to keep his mouth shut and have a folks THINK is a fool than to open one's mouth and remove ALL doubt! It's impossible for me to comprehend that any reasonably educated person would know nothing about the sorry story of the overthrow of Mossadeq. Simply IMPOSSIBLE!!! mike -- 64 220 (RIP, now he's parts on the hoof) - 65 220 - 68 220 (almost ready for the road), and a 66 130 (35k miles last year) Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1354142/things_paul_didnt_tell_probably_know.html">Things Paul didn't tell you and probably didn't know.....</a>

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          READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Things Paul didn't tell you and probably didn't know..... posted by  03V-70awd on  Sat Jun 13 19:05 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 19:15 CST 2009 [RELATED] Sil, I had a college class that covered all of that, but frankly it was many many years ago. My memory was correct though that no matter what western powers or oil companies did to restore his rule, his (*the Shah) family had ruled for centuries. My bigger point is that all of this mess over there has gone on for centuries. People in Poland have a right to be pretty pissed off at how they got dealt dirty after WWII. The borders there were drawn up at a meeting with Stalin, Churchill, and FDR, and they got handed over to Russia to be exploited and raped. At some point these folks in the ME need to move on. War, anger, and religious zealotry hasn't worked, maybe they need to live a different way. You know the Palestinians haven't been invited into the safety of any neighboring Arab nations. Why is that? Could it be they like them more than Jews, but not by much? This piece of land they are fighting over is smaller than most states in our country. I understand there is deep religious history and places that are hallowed ground inside Israel. But that said, enough is enough. If we had alternative energy that was economical, and oil was obsolete, can you imagine how little the western world would care which tribe ended up on top? But alas, oil still makes the western world work so we will be forced to participate in this nonsense. -- “Things in life will not always run smoothly. Sometimes we will be rising towards the heights, and then all will seem to reverse itself and start downward. The great fact to remember is that the trend of civilization is forever upward.” Dr. Endicott Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1354101/things_paul_didnt_tell_probably_know.html">Things Paul didn't tell you and probably didn't know.....</a>

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            READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Things Paul didn't tell you and probably didn't know..... posted by  Sil on  Sun Jun 14 09:42 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 19:25 CST 2009 [RELATED] My memory was correct though that no matter what western powers or oil companies did to restore his rule, his (*the Shah) family had ruled for centuries. Your memory is incorrect. Mahammad Reza Shah Pahlavi was the son of Reza Khan, an army officer who participated in the 1921 coup that overthrew the ancient Qajar dynasty and had himself crowned shah as Reza Shah in 1925. So, the legitimacy of the Pahlavi "dynasty" (all of two generations!) was questionable, to say the least. You know the Palestinians haven't been invited into the safety of any neighboring Arab nations. Wrong again. Here are some figures demonstrating the scope of the Palestinian diaspora and where some of the Palestinians went after expulsion from their homeland: Jordan : 2,300,000 Palestinians (both refugees and Jordanian citizens); Chile : 500,000 Palestinians (largest community outside of Palestine); Syria : 465,000 Palestinians; Libya : 430,000 Palestinians; Saudi Arabia : 275,000 Palestinians; Honduras : 250,000 Palestinians; Egypt : 65,000 (can double to 140,000) Palestinians; United States of America : 100-200,000 Palestinians; Europe : 70,000 to 100,000 Palestinians; Iraq : 50,000 Palestinians; and Brazil : 40,000-60,000 Palestinians. If you'd like to know more, click here This piece of land they are fighting over is smaller than most states in our country. What utter, ignorant nonsense! There are dozens of countries that are smaller than states of the US and that have no hydrocarbons in their sub-soil. Do you mean to say that, if they got taken over by a bunch of people who claimed they belonged to them based on scriptural mythology and who, in addition to that, kicked out the natives, it wouldn't be any concern of the rest of the world, including the US? I'd like to see what would happen if Belgians and Dutchmen, getting tired of living in their muddy low lands, decided to claim nicely mountainous Switzerland as theirs because their ancestors were forced to flee down the Rhine by the ancestors of the Swiss. If we had alternative energy that was economical, and oil was obsolete, can you imagine how little the western world would care which tribe ended up on top? But alas, oil still makes the western world work so we will be forced to participate in this nonsense. I'm willing to accept that premise, and it should be a strong incentive for all good Republicans to support the current Administration's efforts in that direction. But as things stand now, if the condition of the Palestinians imperils the supply of oil to the US, that is all the more reason for the US to lean harder on Israel to strike a deal with them or, at least, take a neutral position. By now we have squandered most of our ability to lean on the Palestinians, the other Arabs, and the Iranians, and our only motivation appears to be fear of the Israelis' striking out against a perceived (or real) threat which could then lead to Middle East-wide conflagration. That event would have any number of unpleasant consequences - sky-high energy prices and the possible destruction of Israel among them. That, plus the resulting backlash of the pro-Israel vote against whichever political party happens to be in power at that point is what makes the blackmail gambit that Israel is playing against the US so believable. I have a great deal of sympathy for the Israelis (I saw the holocaust being carried out and we sheltered Jews in our home.) and I don't want to see Israel wiped off the map, but I don't believe it is either in our, or Israel's, interest to have that much influence over our foreign policy. Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1354218/things_paul_didnt_tell_probably_know.html">Things Paul didn't tell you and probably didn't know.....</a>

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              READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Things Paul didn't tell you and probably didn't know..... posted by  Flab FC on  Sun Jun 14 16:12 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 18:33 CST 2009 [RELATED] Wrong again. Here are some figures demonstrating the scope of the Palestinian diaspora and where some of the Palestinians went after expulsion from their homeland: Yeah, many of whom my grandfather was busy feeding.Details details... Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1354278/things_paul_didnt_tell_probably_know.html">Things Paul didn't tell you and probably didn't know.....</a>

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        READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Hmmm...gee...sounds like our own revolution. posted by  Flab FC on  Sat Jun 13 12:59 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 18:33 CST 2009 [RELATED] Didn't the Founding Fatherś take power at the point of a gun? Isn't that what revolutions are often about? And by the way, while life was more open in some regards under the Shah, wasn't he basically another one of our appointed dictators? Maybe if we hadn't been so busy supporting Israel and itś need to illegally settle in Palestinian lands so tey could pick a fight, the Shah might still be in place, or Iran might be more...Democratic. It was you know. The Mullah's had lost a lot of power. Until Bush called Iran part of the Axis of Evil.... Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1354026/hmmmgeesounds_like_revolution.html">Hmmm...gee...sounds like our own revolution.</a>

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          READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Axis of Evil.... posted by  B20Paul. on  Sat Jun 13 17:31 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 13:12 CST 2009 [RELATED] The Mullah's had lost a lot of power. Until Bush called Iran part of the Axis of Evil.... Did Bush include Iran in his horrible Axis of Evil speech because he is a dummy or did he do it on purpose to provoke? I think to provoke. Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1354074/axis_evil.html">Axis of Evil....</a>

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            READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Axis of Evil.... posted by  03V-70awd on  Sat Jun 13 18:15 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 19:15 CST 2009 [RELATED] I think to provoke. Jeez, I thought it had something to do with them sponsoring terrorism via Hamas and Hezbollah. Wow, who would know that pointing out that they kill civilians would provoke them. I really hope we didn't hurt their feelings. -- “Things in life will not always run smoothly. Sometimes we will be rising towards the heights, and then all will seem to reverse itself and start downward. The great fact to remember is that the trend of civilization is forever upward.” Dr. Endicott Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1354086/axis_evil.html">Axis of Evil....</a>

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              READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Axis of Evil.... posted by  B20Paul. on  Sun Jun 14 04:04 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 13:12 CST 2009 [RELATED] I thought it had something to do with them sponsoring terrorism via Hamas and Hezbollah When was the last time they attacked the USA or any of the 'Coalition of the willing'? When was the last time Iran attacked the USA or any of the 'Coalition of the willing'? Israeli Armed Forces have killed many more Palestinians & Lebanese than vice versa, so maybe it's time to put Israel in it's place. Before 1948, the yellow & orange bits where all Palestine. Now, look how much it's shrunk AND the Israelis are expanding the size of their settlements in the West Bank, taking the premium spots. I wonder why Arabs, Persians, etc. are so pissed off at us. Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1354158/axis_evil.html">Axis of Evil....</a>

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          READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Hmmm...gee...sounds like a chance to bash the U.S. posted by  03V-70awd on  Sat Jun 13 16:25 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 19:15 CST 2009 [RELATED] Maybe if we hadn't been so busy supporting Israel and itś need to illegally settle in Palestinian lands so tey could pick a fight, the Shah might still be in place, or Iran might be more...Democratic. My dear Ms. Flab. I was born in 1964. The Shah was installed long before I was aware of Middle East politics. I do seem to remember that there was some sort of rationale for giving him the job. Wasn't he some sort of Persian Royalty? In any event that was over fifty years ago, as was the creation of Israel. It seems to me that if you looked back at maps of this, or any other, region the borders have changed over time. Nations have come and gone. Countries and people that succeed over time are ones that adapt, change, and over come obstacles and hardships. Truth be told the Israelis have made something of a lump of sand. Can you imagine what they could do if so much of their GDP wasn't put into defense? What if these Palestinians decided they wanted peace. Imagine the economics benefits they would enjoy if they participated in peace and became a part of Israel's success instead of hoping to be their downfall. I know that you are laughing at the notion of the major roadblock to peace not being the Jews, but before you click the reply tab think about this. The crap I quoted of yours above this is probably word for word somewhere in a manifesto written by that scumbag that shot up the Holocaust museum earlier this week. Doesn't it give you pause to know you are of one mind with that piece of garbage? We (the U.S.) did far less to alter the geography and borders of that region than the Brits did over the last few hundred years. Every chance you get though you frame the discussion from the point that U.S. = Bad, but Jews = worse. Even your mentor here Jarrod likes to dole out blame along those lines, and he is part Jewish. I just don't get it. These Palestinians do everything they can to ensure there is no peace, but the U.S. & Israel are the villains? P.S. If your kids are throwing rocks at tanks, and are merely passing the time until they are old enough to strap on explosives to blow themselves up in a public venue, then your people are probably not on the cutting edge of the peace movement. Just a thought. -- “Things in life will not always run smoothly. Sometimes we will be rising towards the heights, and then all will seem to reverse itself and start downward. The great fact to remember is that the trend of civilization is forever upward.” Dr. Endicott Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1354058/hmmmgeesounds_like_chance_bash_us.html">Hmmm...gee...sounds like a chance to bash the U.S.</a>

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            READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  No, it sounds like an opportunity to the tell the unvarnished truth and do real-politik. posted by  Flab FC on  Sat Jun 13 23:29 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 18:33 CST 2009 [RELATED] I know you don't like the truth when it gets in the way of your fantasy about all American guys are John Wayne with his band of trusty GI's beating [ commie, fritz, charlie] for 'Merica and always being the good guy. Real Politiks doesn't work that way, and doesn't function on the basis of 'Good vs. Evil' simple solutions. I was born in 1964. The Shah was installed long before I was aware of Middle East politics. This is news to us? You aren't aware of ME politics today, much less study to find out about what went on before you were born. You just run your mouth and make judgments on it as if you were. Well, I wasn't born either. But I do know quite a bit. For one, both my father and his siblings were alive then, and in Lebanon, and even more importanbtly, my grandfather was not only alive, he was part of the process when Israel was created. He got feed all the hungry Palestinians fleeing the guns of the Israelis. Not only does that part of my family remain closely involved with Institutes specifically focused on the ME, they donate time and resources to active research and digs in the ME, especially if it is related to religious heritage. My cousin did significant underwater recovery in the Red Sea. I also know something because I do generally study the subjects I talk about. As for more modern ME history, well, I have gotten my own personal doses of that,from being there, with escorts, to staying in hotels also occupied by Arab Princes with the associated bomb threats and heavy monitoring. I was given a headband by a sheik. And, as usual, I try and read. Truth be told the Israelis have made something of a lump of sand. A lump of sand? Do have any fricken clue about the geology of Palestine? Where its assets and resources are? They did not make something out of a lump of sand. They were given the best lands and water supplies, and the Palestinians were left crap. However, that's really beside the point. I would love to hear how loudly you would scream if the Federal government came in and took your house and property on the basis that 'someone could make a lot more out of this than you.' It would be lib commie feds stealing my house I earned from my good hard honest labours.' The crap I quoted of yours above this is probably word for word somewhere in a manifesto written by that scumbag that shot up the Holocaust museum earlier this week. This is just another one of your BS fabrications. Every chance you get though you frame the discussion from the point that U.S. = Bad, but Jews = worse. No. I just won let you get away with making up fabrications. YOu enabled the greatest rape of the taxpaying public this nation has ever known, and took a dump on the Constitution, and I have no intention of letting you plow it further into the ground becuase you want to believe the little lies that let you live your fantasies. You see, I understand real-politiks, and am far more comfortable with them than you are, so I don't need to live the lies. I also accept that there are consequences for our actions, in real-politiks, and the current state of Iran is part of it. By the way, at what point have I ever attacked Jews on this site? And don't mention Israel, because all I have ever complained about is their leadership. Israel is not the sum of the Jewish population in this world, by a long stretch. P.S. If your kids are throwing rocks at tanks, and are merely passing the time until they are old enough to strap on explosives to blow themselves up in a public venue, then your people are probably not on the cutting edge of the peace movement. Oh, but Israeli children being pushed by their parents to write "Death to Muslims" on rockets before they are shot into Lebanon is? Rockets supplied my Uncle Sam? Spare me. You aren't interested in peace, except on your own terms after you have blown up the other side... Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1354146/sounds_like_opportunity_tell_unvarnished_truth_realpolitik.html">No, it sounds like an opportunity to the tell the unvarnished truth and do real-politik.</a>

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              READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Humble pie now being served..... posted by  03V-70awd on  Sun Jun 14 17:47 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 19:15 CST 2009 [RELATED] I know you don't like the truth when it gets in the way of your fantasy about all American guys are John Wayne with his band of trusty GI's beating [ commie, fritz, charlie] for 'Merica and always being the good guy. Real Politiks doesn't work that way, and doesn't function on the basis of 'Good vs. Evil' simple solutions. My dear Flab. That is your version of my sense of America. My sense is we have brought freedom to millions of people in the ME, and around the globe. Yes, through the loss of some real life heroes, but can you name one despot who left office through any means other than force or their own natural demise? You see most times when hope and change worked, it was helped along by U.S. Marines. Yes, Castro & Castro still runs that once bountiful example of free enterprise 89 miles from Miami, and they still drive 57 Chevy's today. Saddam & his sons would still be raping, stealing, and giving homes to terrorists such as Abu Nidal, if Bill Clinton, Jimmy "lust in his heart" Carter, & BHO were the only ones in charge of ME policy. Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, even Mussolini fell into my description of hope and change, or death by natural causes. Your side has Neville Chamberlin, Madeline "the queen of N. Korea" Albright, and Syrus Vance. Yep, quite the record you have going. You are saying "well more of his fabrications. Here is a nice piece from the far right wing leaning news source "New York Times" giving credit to G.W. Bush for progress towards peace and Democracy in the ME. It seems all those policies you called "failed" seem to be working. Here is a sample for your reading pleasure. ...Second, for real politics to happen you need space. There are a million things to hate about President Bush’s costly and wrenching wars. But the fact is, in ousting Saddam in Iraq in 2003 and mobilizing the U.N. to push Syria out of Lebanon in 2005, he opened space for real democratic politics that had not existed in Iraq or Lebanon for decades. “Bush had a simple idea, that the Arabs could be democratic, and at that particular moment simple ideas were what was needed, even if he was disingenuous,” said Michael Young, the opinion editor of The Beirut Daily Star. “It was bolstered by the presence of a U.S. Army in the center of the Middle East. It created a sense that change was possible, that things did not always have to be as they were.” When I reported from Beirut in the 1970s and 1980s, I covered coups and wars. I never once stayed up late waiting for an election result. Elections in the Arab world were a joke — literally. They used to tell this story about Syria’s president, Hafez al-Assad. After a Syrian election, an aide came in and told Assad: “Mr. President, you won 99.8 percent of the votes. It means that only two-tenths of one percent of Syrians didn’t vote for you. What more could ask for?” Assad answered: “Their names!” Lebanese, by contrast, just waited up all night for their election results — no one knew what they’d be. Third, the Bush team opened a hole in the wall of Arab autocracy but did a poor job following through. In the vacuum, the parties most organized to seize power were the Islamists — Hezbollah in Lebanon; pro-Al Qaeda forces among Iraqi Sunnis, and the pro-Iranian Islamic Supreme Council of Iraq and Mahdi Army among Iraqi Shiites; the Taliban in Pakistan and Afghanistan; Hamas in Gaza. Fortunately, each one of these Islamist groups overplayed their hand by imposing religious lifestyles or by dragging their societies into confrontations the people didn’t want. This alienated and frightened more secular, mainstream Arabs and Muslims and has triggered an “awakening” backlash among moderates from Lebanon to Pakistan to Iran. The Times’s Robert Mackey reported that in Tehran “chants of ‘Death to America’ ” at rallies for Mahmoud Ahmadinejad last week were answered by chants of “Death to the Taliban — in Kabul and Tehran” at a rally for his opponent, Mir Hussein Moussavi. Yes intelligent discourse may have solved disputes in the private schools you know doubt attended in your youth. In the real world history tells us diplomacy works when the bayonet has been used first, and superiority has been established. When the history books are finally written, after your generation of Liberals is dead and buried, we know who will be remembered as a courageous president. Yes, your friend G.W. Of course Carter & Clinton will be remembered too. As perhaps slightly worse than William Henry Harrison. But he had a large fever most of the time, so it really isn't a fair comparison. -- “Things in life will not always run smoothly. Sometimes we will be rising towards the heights, and then all will seem to reverse itself and start downward. The great fact to remember is that the trend of civilization is forever upward.” Dr. Endicott Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1354301/humble_pie_now_served.html">Humble pie now being served.....</a>

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                READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Do you even know who wrote that? posted by  TortFeezer on  Tue Jun 16 15:59 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Fri Nov 13 11:13 CST 2009 [RELATED] I doubt it. You didn't reference it so I bet you got it from your extreme right blogs and pasted it here becuase they told you it was a lefty. You knew you couldn't reference those blogs so no link. Don't bother running to tell us now, because it won't do you any good. I'll say his name now. Friedman writes during the 70's and 80's election in the Arab world were a joke. For a man so well exposed as a reporter in the Middle East, I find his reference to Lebanon as an Arab state troublesome. Only about 30% of the Lebanese population is Arabic. Lebanon is ancient with most of the population descended from the Canaanites and Syriac-Arameans. Using Beirut as a reference to Arab politics is like using British politics to define what is reflective of politics in Scandinavia or Germany. The countries all touch on the North Sea so they must be the same. Shame on Freidman. Instead he should have said during the 70's and 80's elections in the Middle Eastern world were a joke and he would be more accurate. Some of that is directly our doing. We put the Shah in power and helped keep him there. We supported Saddam against Iran when they threw us off. I point this out to remind you that we have played our part in keeping the Middle East non democratic. It hurts our credibility when we suddenly want to claim we are bring democracy to the Middle East. Bush didn't do what he did to bring democracy any more than Reagan or Eisenhower. Before much of our tampering the Middle East had a lot of fledgling democracies forming on their own. Lebanon was one starting in 1942. They even had a peaceful coup in 1952 when the President got a little to addicted to power.Look up 1952 Lebanon Maronite Coup. Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1354696/even_know_wrote.html">Do you even know who wrote that?</a>

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                  READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Quite right! NMI posted by  Sil on  Wed Jun 17 06:07 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 19:25 CST 2009 [RELATED] Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1354779/quite_right_nmi.html">Quite right! NMI</a>

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                READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Humble pie now being served..... posted by  Sil on  Mon Jun 15 10:18 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 19:25 CST 2009 [RELATED] Yes, through the loss of some real life heroes, but can you name one despot who left office through any means other than force or their own natural demise? You see most times when hope and change worked, it was helped along by U.S. Marines. I was inclined to give you the benefit of the doubt in consideration of the fact that "force" can be defined in many ways, but when you brought the US Marines into the picture, this assertion became, shall we say, dubious? You might want to consider the departure from power of the following gentlemen: Nicolae Ceauşescu János Kádár Gustav Husák Erich Honecker Wladyslaw Gomulka Augusto Pinochet Leopoldo Galtieri, and good old one-name Suharto I was going to add Francisco Paulino Hermenegildo Teódulo Franco y Bahamonde, Salgado y Pardo de Andrade to the list because his predilection for names contrasts so nicely with Suharto's, but he did sort of stay half in and half out of office till he died - he sort of mellowed away, so to speak. Still, he did pave the way for a constitutional monarchy and democratic governance, even if that was, probably, not quite his intention. I think he was beginning to feel lonely as the only fellow in boots indicating how high the corn grows in Iowa left in Western Europe, and he just gave up, disappointed that there was little chance that one like him would come along soon. Now, if we bring "force" in the sense of "military force" into the discussion: there are instances of one, or more, of the military establishments within the country overthrowing despots and making way for democratic governments. One that immediately comes to mind is the demise of the Marcos Pérez Jiménez regime in Venezuela. I'm sure there are instances of US intervention by way of the Marine Corps leading to democratization, if not immediately, then at least, some time later. In the case to the Philippines it only took 88 years. ;-) Certainly the actions related to the Halls of Montezuma and the Shores of Tripoli didn't do much to further the cause of democracy, nor did those related to Nicaragua ("Tachito" Somoza), The Dominican Republic ("Chapita" Trujillo), and Haiti (Philippe Dartiguenave and the even more democratiques "Papa Doc & Bébé Doc" Duvalier. I think we can all agree that the US Marine Corps is a superb fighting force, but as a agent for democratization it leaves something to be desired. Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1354411/humble_pie_now_served.html">Humble pie now being served.....</a>

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                READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  You know what is easier than eating humble pie... posted by  Snootfull on  Mon Jun 15 07:35 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 22:09 CST 2009 [RELATED] running away! chirp, chirp, chirp -- "The long memory is the most radical idea in America."- Utah Phillips Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1354367/know_easier_eating_humble_pie.html">You know what is easier than eating humble pie...</a>

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              READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  For the record... posted by  03V-70awd on  Sun Jun 14 09:22 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 19:15 CST 2009 [RELATED] By the way, at what point have I ever attacked Jews on this site? True, of course Mel Gibson never posted any anti Jewish stuff here either. We both know what happened when he got stopped by a cop he thought looked a little too much like a CPA. Oh, but Israeli children being pushed by their parents to write "Death to Muslims" on rockets before they are shot into Lebanon is? Rockets supplied my Uncle Sam? You have never addressed the underlying point that Israel has given up lands and made concessions. What have the Palestinians done to move towards peace? They don't, they throw up roadblocks to the process, they make demands, and when the demands are met it is never enough. You don't think the Jewish people want peace? You don't think resolution of this conflict is in their best interests? These people (the Palestinians)live about a hundred years behind the rest of the world. Peace is in their best interests as well. It is truly a shame that they don't want that. Tell me, when the other side feels your death and extinction is the only favorable outcome, where is the middle ground? Can the Jews say O.K. Kill half us. Is that a fair offer? Maybe if we hadn't been so busy supporting Israel and itś need to illegally settle in Palestinian lands so tey could pick a fight, the Shah might still be in place, or Iran might be more...Democratic. Flab, the man shot up a Holocaust museum. His rantings were very anti Israel, and he was on the same side of the argument as you. This is not a fabrication of mine, this is fact. You may brush me off to the world as though I am wrong, but in your head you certainly know the truth. I merely pointed it out to you. -- The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them.' Albert Einstein Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1354212/record.html">For the record...</a>

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                READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Whose side I am on? posted by  Flab FC on  Sun Jun 14 11:20 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 18:33 CST 2009 [RELATED] Whose side am I on? The side of peace like those listed below. US Jews for Rebuilding Gaza JEws For Peace "Four days later on July 17, Jewish peace groups in the Bay Area, outraged by the Israeli attacks on Palestinians in Gaza and the bombing of Lebanon, held a large demonstration during the lunch hour in front of the Israeli consulate. The protest was organized by Jewish Voice for Peace and Jews for a Free Palestine, reports Greenspan." The Die In Anti-Hezbolla Coalition wins in Lebenon This is what Mel Gibson did:( Note he does not refer to Israel.) "According to police records, Gibson, a strict Catholic, then launched into an anti-semitic tirade, referring to “f****** Jews” and stating that “the Jews are responsible for all the wars in the world”." Mel Gibson Rant At no time, here or in any other situation, have I ever said any such things about Jewish people. I have never suggested or supported violence against Jews, or said anything remotely bigoted about them as a people, or their religion. Quite the contrary, as they happen to share most of my values, where as I share virtually none of yours and 'red blooded' 'Merica. They value and strongly support, education, the arts- including being very devoted to opera-, medicine,and a variety of large charities. Nor have I ever made statements supporting the destruction of Israel, or a dislike of Israelis in general.All I have done is state pure citable facts about the situation in Palestine and Israel, and the repercussions of those actions, including US involvement and it's impact on us. Stating facts does not make me anti-Israel or anti- Semitic. Nor does stating my unwillingness to support US policies that enable part of Israel's ruling establishment to continue policies that are either illegal, or detrimental to their goal of peace, and detrimental Israel's right to exist. So, you either find something you can cite about me saying anything anywhere anti-Israeli or Anti-Semetic, or shut it. What has this: You have never addressed the underlying point that Israel has given up lands and made concessions. got to do with this? Oh, but Israeli children being pushed by their parents to write "Death to Muslims" on rockets before they are shot into Lebanon is? Rockets supplied my Uncle Sam? Nada. More attempts to spin away from the unpleasant facts that both sides have elements that don't seem to want peace very much. His rantings were very anti Israel, and he was on the same side of the argument as you. Oh they were? Quote it, cite it and prove it. But I guess based on that reasoning, you must be VERY anti-semetic. We KNOW how you hate the lft wing media, and its stuffed full of powerful Jewish people. Succesful Jewish People Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1354234/record_usual_one_ignorance_spin_fabrications.html">Whose side I am on?</a>

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            READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Wow, you really are ignorant. posted by  B20Paul. on  Sat Jun 13 17:53 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 13:12 CST 2009 [RELATED] I was born in 1964. The Shah was installed long before I was aware of Middle East politics. I do seem to remember that there was some sort of rationale for giving him the job. Wasn't he some sort of Persian Royalty? Wow, you really are ignorant. The Iran problem is another Anglo-Saxon stuff up not unlike Afghanistan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Iraq, Israel/Palestine, Pakistan, etc. What if these Palestinians decided they wanted peace. Imagine the economics benefits they would enjoy if they participated in peace and became a part of Israel's success instead of hoping to be their downfall. Why should the Palestinians do anything the Israelis tell them? That's like the Italian Mafia taking control over the USA & you can't do anything about it. These Palestinians do everything they can to ensure there is no peace, but the U.S. & Israel are the villains? Do you seriously think expanding Israeli Settlements in the West Bank is fine? Every chance you get though you frame the discussion from the point that U.S. = Bad, but Jews = worse. That's not the case at all. It's U.S. Redneck Neocons are bad & right wing Jews aren't that great either. 2/3rds of American Jews vote Democrat, I wonder what they think of the Israeli/Palestine conflict. Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1354078/wow_really_ignorant.html">Wow, you really are ignorant.</a>

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  READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Ahmejenadouche...... posted by  03V-70awd on  Thu Jun 11 08:51 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 19:15 CST 2009 [RELATED] Paul, please educate me if I am wrong, but isn't he pretty much a figure head? Do the Mullahs not really control and run everything in Iran? Despite the vote the country is not what we have come to know as a Democracy. I think the term is "theocratic republic", but it is rule by Muslim Law at the end of the day, as specified by the Ayatollahs. He is merely a mouthpiece and a talking head. I don't believe a different voice would equal a different national policy. The problem is a nuclear Iran. The example is a nuclear North Korea. The solutions will be similar. The consequences of not finding a solution will be dire throughout the region. -- The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them.' Albert Einstein Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1353571/ahmejenadouche.html">Ahmejenadouche......</a>

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    READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  03V-70awdadouche...... posted by  B20Paul. on  Thu Jun 11 10:16 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 13:12 CST 2009 [RELATED] Paul, please educate me if I am wrong No, because it's a complete waste of time. The problem is a nuclear Iran. The example is a nuclear North Korea. Is this part of the GOP's thought process? 'The problem is a nuclear Iran, the example is a nuclear North Korea, so let's start a war with Iraq, who don't have WMD's & never had nuclear capabilities!' North Korea was always more of a threat than anywhere in the Middle East, why didn't Bush attack North Korea first? Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1353597/ahmejenadouche.html">03V-70awdadouche......</a>

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      READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Way to avoid the essence of the topic.... posted by  03V-70awd on  Thu Jun 11 10:45 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 19:15 CST 2009 [RELATED] So from your thoughtful response the reader is to understand a new President in Iran will bring about different national policy? It is tough to tell by the way you failed to address any portion of the question. I would respond by saying that Slick Willy Clinton and Madeline "halfbright" Albright had what could only be described as genius level foreign policy in N. Korea. Giving them nuclear technology to prevent them from getting it was brilliant. Way to go left. Don't worry Paul I don't expect a response about that. Merely trash me for bringing it up. -- The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them.' Albert Einstein Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1353612/way_avoid_essence_topic.html">Way to avoid the essence of the topic....</a>

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        READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Way to avoid the essence of the topic.... posted by  B20Paul. on  Thu Jun 11 11:11 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 13:12 CST 2009 [RELATED] It is tough to tell by the way you failed to address any portion of the question. I did address the question, I said: No, because it's a complete waste of time. Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1353624/way_avoid_essence_topic.html">Way to avoid the essence of the topic....</a>

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          READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Changing Iranian presidents is like moving around the deck chairs on the Titanic... posted by  03V-70awd on  Thu Jun 11 11:26 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 19:15 CST 2009 [RELATED] Paul, you are vapid and unable to participate in intelligent discourse. Please note how when I made disparaging comment about Ahmedinajhan, the man who was one of the leaders of the group that took over the U.S. embassy, and subsequent hostage taking in Iran in the late 70's, and you then felt the need to attack me thus defending him. This piece of human debris took my brothers, and innocent civilians hostage for 444 days. And you feel less respect for me, than you do him. All because I have right leaning beliefs. This is quite the commentary on you as a human being. -- The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them.' Albert Einstein Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1353627/changing_iranian_presidents_like_moving_around_deck_chairs_titanic.html">Changing Iranian presidents is like moving around the deck chairs on the Titanic... </a>

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            READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  No, This is quite the commentary on you as a human being. posted by  B20Paul. on  Thu Jun 11 11:46 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 13:12 CST 2009 [RELATED] Please note how when I made disparaging comment about Ahmedinajhan, the man who was one of the leaders of the group that took over the U.S. embassy, and subsequent hostage taking in Iran in the late 70's, and you then felt the need to attack me thus defending him. This piece of human debris took my brothers, and innocent civilians hostage for 444 days. Yawn, poor thing, would you like a Kleenex? How many American's did he kill? Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1353632/quite_commentary_human.html">No, This is quite the commentary on you as a human being.</a>

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              READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Your empathy is overwhelming posted by  03V-70awd on  Thu Jun 11 12:07 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 19:15 CST 2009 [RELATED] Yawn, poor thing, would you like a Kleenex? How many American's did he kill? Well, in civilized nations kidnapping is a capital offense. If he is as you say a head of state, then his nation's sponsoring of Hezbolah would make him responsible for thousands of human killings Killings that include women and children. Not that you give a shit. -- The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them.' Albert Einstein Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1353636/empathy_overwhelming.html">Your empathy is overwhelming</a>

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                READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Your empathy is overwhelming posted by  B20Paul. on  Thu Jun 11 12:29 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 13:12 CST 2009 [RELATED] How many thousands of Afghans have died since Bush declared war on them? How many thousands of Iraqis have died since Bush declared war on them? (It's more than 100,000) How many Allied soldiers have died in these two concurrent wars?(It's 5500+) Bush has killed more people than Ahmadinejad, Bin Laden & Sadam combined have by far, Bush killed more American soldiers alone than Bin Laden did on 9/11, so who is truly more evil? What have we got out of Bush's twin wars for all the people that have died? Very little worth mentioning, certainly no reduction in terrorism. If you do the maths it's pretty easy to see that Ahmadinejad holding a few Americans captive is very small potatoes. Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1353638/empathy_overwhelming.html">Your empathy is overwhelming</a>

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                  READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Straw man Paul makes another arguement......... posted by  03V-70awd on  Thu Jun 11 16:11 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 19:15 CST 2009 [RELATED] Could you be more wrong? "How many thousands of Afghans have died since Bush declared war on them?" Wake up and smell the coffee. He brought our military might to bear on the Taliban and Al Quedada in Afghanastan, not the Afghany people. Same as with the Iraqi's. He overturned a despot government. Many if not most of the people killed were killed by terrorists either exploding themselves, or bombs in public places, or by hiding in civilian areas to avoid contact with our superior military forces. I might add how many men died in our revolution? No one said that freedom for these people would easy or without cost. "What have we got out of Bush's twin wars for all the people that have died? Very little worth mentioning, certainly no reduction in terrorism." Paul, so small minded. We have had ZERO terror incidents on our soil since Bush took action in the Middle East. Say waht you want about him but he has brought freedom to those who didn't have it, and his record on domectic terror incidents post 9/11 is flawless. If you do the maths it's pretty easy to see that Ahmadinejad holding a few Americans captive is very small potatoes. That is the biggest load of crap in the bunch. Perhaps if your wife, son, or brother had been one of them that was held for well over a year, you'd feel differently. If your child was the victim of Hamas or Hezbolahyou would also have a very different opinion. You see Bush was bringing peace and freedom. This guy sponsors terror and killings of innocents. Big difference. -- "There are more things between heaven and earth, Horatio, then are dreamt of in your philosophy' Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1353672/straw_man_paul_makes_another_arguement.html">Straw man Paul makes another arguement.........</a>

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                    READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  No Wheel Drive sit & spins again. posted by  B20Paul. on  Thu Jun 11 21:25 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 13:12 CST 2009 [RELATED] Could you be more wrong? Wrong about what? Are you suggesting the amount of dead soldiers is wrong? What? He brought our military might to bear on the Taliban and Al Quedada in Afghanastan, not the Afghany people. Riight & no regular Afghans got bombed. Same as with the Iraqi's. You are 1/2 wrong already, there never was any Taliban in Iraq. It's debatable that there was any Al Qaeda there either until after the war started since Saddam hated Al Qaeda more that he hated Iranians. Paul, so small minded. We have had ZERO terror incidents on our soil since Bush took action in the Middle East. Really? I can think of at least TWO Bush......incidents post 9/11 is flawless Riight. So what if he was the POTUS in charge when 9/11 happened, he was flawless after! (Except for a couple of times after 9/11 when terrorist attacked American soil & who gives a crap about all the terror attacks that happened to America's 'coalition of the willing') Perhaps if your wife, son, or brother had been one of them that was held for well over a year, you'd feel differently. Perhaps. But what you are saying is the value of dead Afghans, Iranians & Iraqis are worthless compared to captured Americans. You see Bush was bringing peace and freedom. What peace? You call Two Wars happening simultaneous peace? Which cop shop do you work for? I'd like to report a policeman stealing drugs from the evidence safe. Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1353728/wheel_drive_sit_spins.html">No Wheel Drive sit & spins again.</a>

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                    READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Cut and run strawman himself. posted by  TortFeezer on  Thu Jun 11 16:32 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Fri Nov 13 11:13 CST 2009 [RELATED] I love to read you make those strawman arguments. Comparing Iraq to the US revolution is a straw man argument. You create a juxtaposition that does not exist. Revolution comes from within. Did the Iraqis rise up? I don't think so. Zero incidents on our soil? Are you sure about that? Careful...... Bush sponsored the killing of innocents too. A lot of innocents in Lebenon died from the arms we supposedly sold Israel. Keep up your straw man arguments. IN a little while, you'll run away from this thread too. Just like you always run. Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1353673/cut_run_strawman.html">Cut and run strawman himself.</a>

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                      READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Cut and run strawman Paul himself. posted by  03V-70awd on  Thu Jun 11 17:29 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 19:15 CST 2009 [RELATED] IN a little while, you'll run away from this thread too Who's running? I would say that Paul is the one running. He based the thread on a child like understanding of the Iranian government, and now refuses to address the very matter he brought up in the first place. http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090611/D98O8KQO0.html By the way, even the AP gets it. I don't know why Paul can't figure this one out. ..."The outcome will have little direct impact on Iran's key policies - such as its nuclear program, or possible acceptance of Washington's offer for dialogue - which are directly dictated by the ruling Islamic clerics"..... -- “Things in life will not always run smoothly. Sometimes we will be rising towards the heights, and then all will seem to reverse itself and start downward. The great fact to remember is that the trend of civilization is forever upward.” Dr. Endicott Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1353686/cut_run_strawman_paul.html">Cut and run strawman Paul himself.</a>

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                        READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Cut and run turbo chicken. posted by  B20Paul. on  Thu Jun 11 21:40 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 13:12 CST 2009 [RELATED] I would say that Paul is the one running. LOL, That'll happen. He based the thread on a child like understanding of the Iranian government Have you seen the anti-Ahmadinejad protesters in the news. Ordinarily they would have been tossed in jail quicker than the PLA mowed down Students in Tiananmen Square. Ahmadinejad is on the outer, Mousavi is on the way in. Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1353733/cut_run_turbo_chicken.html">Cut and run turbo chicken.</a>

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                          READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Cut and run turbo chicken. posted by  03V-70awd on  Sat Jul 11 19:22 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 19:15 CST 2009 [RELATED] :I would say that Paul is the one running. LOL, That'll happen. Man, you ran away so fast you left flaming footprints behind you! :~) -- "There are more things between heaven and earth, Horatio, then are dreamt of in your philosophy' Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1359372/cut_run_turbo_chicken.html">Cut and run turbo chicken.</a>

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                            READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Liar. posted by  B20Paul. on  Sat Jul 18 13:07 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 13:12 CST 2009 [RELATED] Man, you ran away so fast you left flaming footprints behind you! There is TEN posts in this thread alone where you did not reply, but instead legged it. Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1360636/liar.html">Liar.</a>

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                              READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Just acknowldge you were off base posted by  03V-70awd on  Sun Jul 19 10:00 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 19:15 CST 2009 [RELATED] "There is TEN posts in this thread alone where you did not reply, but instead legged it." First of all the polar bear calling the snow white, is no less white himself. The above quote even if it were accurate is far from being able to change the facts. Admit it, the drive-by media sucked you in, and you bought the crap they were selling. I said all along that the election was a farce, and that the seat Mr. Members-only jacket holds, is equally a farce. Not only did I doubt that he would lose, but I also said replacing him with the architect of their nuclear program is far from "change we can believe in". Paul, they sucked you in. -- "There are more things between heaven and earth, Horatio, then are dreamt of in your philosophy' Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1360759/just_acknowldge_base.html">Just acknowldge you were off base</a>

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                                READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  You still haven't replied to 10 other posts from other posters here. posted by  B20Paul. on  Sat Jul 25 09:58 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 13:12 CST 2009 [RELATED] I've replied to every post, you HAVE NOT, you cut & run from everyone else & you only came back here to gloat. What a classy guy. Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1362023/still_havent_replied_10_posts_posters.html">You still haven't replied to 10 other posts from other posters here.</a>

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                          READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Child like understanding indeed.... posted by  03V-70awd on  Wed Jul 8 13:13 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 19:15 CST 2009 [RELATED] "Ahmadinejad is on the outer, Mousavi is on the way in." I hope your psychic Miss Cleo will give you a refund, because this prediction just doesn't seem to be coming true. My guess is Mousavi will very shortly be getting a wax likeness put along side Jimmy Hoffa's in the Madam Tusseau's museum in the wing of the bodies that won't ever be recovered. Way to go Paul. -- Just bought a 03 V70 T5 AWD. It is my second Volvo. My 1995 960 had over 250K on it when I sold it. I hope this one lasts that long too. Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1358766/child_like_understanding_indeed.html">Child like understanding indeed....</a>

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  READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Iran Votes posted by  mike t on  Thu Jun 11 08:27 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 21:46 CST 2009 [RELATED] As in America the people don't mean shit. Only difference being, it is the politicians ignoring the public interest and in Iran, the clerics. They will do what they will do, and that is that! I actually prefer Ahmadinejad... it is quite easy enough to see where he stands!! mike -- 64 220 (RIP, now he's parts on the hoof) - 65 220 - 68 220 (almost ready for the road), and a 66 130 (35k miles last year) Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1353564/iran_votes.html">Iran Votes</a>

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    READ ONLY    PRINT   SAVE  Iran Votes posted by  mike t on  Thu Jun 11 10:42 CST 2009 Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS]     [IGNORE ALL POSTS] last visit: Sat Nov 21 21:46 CST 2009 [RELATED] Oh... and let me add. Diplomatic contact needs to take place between the US and Iran. both sides have been pissing and moaning about there differences for years to no avail. Maybe some other approach is indicated... something silly like... oh, sitting down and discussing the issues with an eye toward resolving problems. Swallow a little pride and talk maybe!?!?!?!?!? Everybody must first get off their high horses! I've actually heard problem solving is sometimes done by people with issues, funny eh? Mike -- 64 220 (RIP, now he's parts on the hoof) - 65 220 - 68 220 (almost ready for the road), and a 66 130 (35k miles last year) Mark this post as an answer to my question<- Use this feature to mark quality replies to your post. Select, copy to buffer, and paste anywhere: <a href="http://www.brickboard.com/OPINIONS/volvo/1353611/iran_votes.html">Iran Votes</a>

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