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Quicker Steering Ratio for 240?[ALL/1998] posted by Alan McConnachie on
Sunday, 21 December 1997, at 8:13 p.m.
I want a quicker steering ratio for my 82 Chevrolet powered Volvo. Is there
a competion rack and pinon available from Volvo? (What did the mid 1980's
European Touring cars use) or failing that is there a unit from
a different model or make that is suitable for adaption. I,m looking for
2 3/4 or 3 turns lock to lock. Thanks
Re: Quicker Steering Ratio for 240?[ALL/1998] posted by Topi on
Sunday, 21 December 1997, at 9:01 p.m.
Power steering rack is quicker than non-power. If you already have it and want even quicker, your choices are to order one from Sweden or shorten your steering arms at the hubs. 10mm will quicken a lot ! Swedish quick racks are for manual ZFs only. Pretty rare in the US. Some early 240s had them. They never used quick steering on the track, only for rallying. Here's one Ph. # -46-370-264 94. I don't who he is but I've seen this ad many times for quick steering racks.
Re: Quicker Steering Ratio for 240?[ALL/1998] posted by Steve LeFever on
Monday, 22 December 1997, at 1:09 p.m.
I have seen some of the early units on 240's at the local U-Strip-Um parts yards. But, is a rack with 150,000 to 200,000 miles on it worth having? How long would they last and could they even be rebuilt, if necessary?
Re: Quicker Steering Ratio for 240?[ALL/1998] posted by Alan McConnacie on
Monday, 22 December 1997, at 9:31 p.m.
Thanks for your advice Topi. I have been contemplating shortening the
steering arms for a while, but I will call that ph # you sent out of
curiousity.
Re: Quicker Steering Ratio for 240?[ALL/1998] posted by Henrik on
Wednesday, 24 December 1997, at 10:51 a.m.
You dont think that shortening the steering arms is a little dangerous?.Even if you are very skilled with welding, that arm would never be as strong as it was from new.I dont say it will break- BUT IF IT DOES THE CAR WILL THROW IT SELF OFF THE ROAD A HELL OF A LOT QUICKER THAN ANY STEERING RACK WOULD DO.
If you start welding be sure that your local "car inspection" is in a good mood.
In DK they will rip your licence plates off!!! if they find out that something like that is welded, so think twice.
Re: Quicker Steering Ratio for 240?[ALL/1998] posted by Peter on
Wednesday, 24 December 1997, at 12:47 p.m.
Your point is very well taken. This is not something the backyard mechanic wants to try.
However... (Alan will kill me for tooting his horn, but he certainly won't do it himself) if anyone is qualified to do a good job with this, it's Alan. I've known him for a while and his fabrication work borders on art. His effort will be well thought out, well designed and impecably executed.
Re: Quicker Steering Ratio for 240?[ALL/1998] posted by Steve Seekins on
Monday, 29 December 1997, at 6:50 a.m.
There are a couple of problems with shortening the steering knuckles to gain quicker steering. The first is that these parts are forged. Any attempt to weld forged steel parts requires special welding equipment and processes in order to maintain the strength of the part. Normal welding techniques will result in embrittlement of the forging and a tendency to fracture under shock loads.
The second problem is that the length of the steering knuckles is critical to the steering geometry. When you turn the wheels, the inside wheel turns more than the outside wheel. This is necessary because the turning radius of the inside wheel is much smaller than the outside wheel because it is closer to the center of the turning circle by the width of the car. If the inside wheel did not turn more than the outside wheel, one of the wheels would be skidding sideways over the pavement every time that you turn. And this would cause a decrease in traction on the front wheels during turns resulting in 'push' or understeer on cornering. This would definitely be counterproductive on a car intended for sport handling. Since there is little adjustment available on the McPhereson strut type suspension that Volvo uses, the only acceptable (IMHO) method of quicker steering with the existing front suspension design would be a diffferent ratio rack.
Volvo Club of America
Re: Quicker Steering Ratio for 240?[ALL/1998] posted by Peter on
Monday, 29 December 1997, at 10:42 a.m.
Your points are well taken. In addition to the problem you described (a change in what's called "ackerman"), there may be a problem with a change in bump steer (the tendency for the wheels to turn when the front of the car hits a bump). These problems CAN be addressed in part by relocating the steering rack. Whether or not it makes sense to relocate the rack is the question.
Since Alan has done extensive fabrication work for a broad range of high-tech race efforts, I'm sure he's aware of the issues associated with welding forged pieces as well as the suspension geometry issues.